I'm not sure we disagree altogether. I do think kids need diet and exercise, just not dictated regimens. Ideally the whole family unit would observe healthy eating habits. Families should eat at home and cook together. You see, when I say weight is a manifestation of a larger problem it can be so many things. A breakdown of discipline is certainly one of them but it's not the child's fault that it occurs. To a certain age of course. I'm talking about kid kids here.