PLEASE READ EBAY/PAYPAL USERS

[Shelbay]

It is funny how people will accept the perversion of their private information as everyday life. To think these companies and their operators would never use this information maliciously is to be totally ignorant of history. Not only that but their desire to operate as a quasi-authoritative agency and willingness to provide law enforcement with information outside of established channels should send a chill up the spine of anyone who values their personal freedom.

Scenario: Granny buys a bottle of AN Carboload on eBay for use on her tomato plants. Gets her door kicked in 3 months later at 4am by the DEA because eBay/Paypal told them she was buying marijuana growing supplies on their site. Granny isn't growing so she doesn't get arrested... she just had to deal with 10 guys in ski masks and machine guns raiding her house in the dark who leave as quickly as they appeared with no paperwork. Does this sound like the America you want to live in?

When did it become so hard to get a warrant? More importantly, when did people stop demanding them?

Wow. I am glad some of you on here are actually articulate because your post is exactly how I feel after reading that! I just don't have the gift of articulation as you do. I think these things but I have to really concentrate to keypunch out a coherent post sometimes...anyway..one more thing..lets hope when these things become more apparent that some of these guys actually use the safety on their weapons and make sure they actually have the right house sometimes.

[Ae...]

For all you paranoid fuck.

Two words.

Prove it.

They woke a lot of people up with the attempt to pass the Patriot Act, so maybe that would be a good place to start. Here's a PDF file of the actual document you can download.

http://www.infowars.com/police_state.html

A rough summary may be that the government wants to take away all of the U.S. citizens natural rights and freedoms. This in turn makes us less vulnerable to 'terrorist attacks' within the country. In the case you've shown interest, a citizen's lack of 4th Amendment rights, makes illegal searches magically legal because you could be a terrorist.

http://www.infowars.com/saved%20page...lice_State.htm

http://www.infowars.com/articles/ps/...rity_state.htm

http://www.infowars.com/martiallawphotos.html

http://www.infowars.com/articles/ps/...n_its_here.htm

It may be a lot to read, but it should be interesting enough that you will not notice. Besides, it's happening in your country...right now.

I also wanted to add that infowars is not the only site around that contains this type of information, it's just a good site for introducing people to our government's true nature. My personal favorite alternate site is http://www.rense.com/ ...Jeff is a bit less agressive than Alex in trying to portray his message.

So anyway, I hope some of this will get you thinking and I hope that I didn't digress too much in the process.

[nutranater]

I know of no article stating information from E-bay or PayPal was used to obtain a warrant or search warrant. If Iam wrong I hope you can show me the way to where it is. I live in the northeast and in a very remote area. If I want things I need for indoor cultivation I have to go to the net. If the prices are more than I can afford I have gone to E-bay. Most sellers of such goods keep info stealth and quiet. Have done this for a number of years. I have friends in the law enforcement field (Keep friends close,keep enemies closer) who Have said to do such information shuffling would prove to be a huge waste in time! Stop being so paranoid and from spreading it around. Chicken little was WRONG the shy is not falling! Come on use your heads!

[del...]

paypal and ebay won't keep an account open once either one discovers there is illegal activity going on so it shouldn't affect anyone here. seedbay used paypal for a short time until they figured out what's going on...then they (paypal) kept the funds! same story for other sellers using paypal to process payments. it's been dried up as a payment transfer biz for several years now...

and ebay, well their terms of compliance says it all...

thanks for the heads up anyway. obviously there are still some falling into their traps!

[STDzRus]

They woke a lot of people up with the attempt to pass the Patriot Act, so maybe that would be a good place to start. Here's a PDF file of the actual document you can download.

http://www.infowars.com/police_state.html

A rough summary may be that the government wants to take away all of the U.S. citizens natural rights and freedoms. This in turn makes us less vulnerable to 'terrorist attacks' within the country. In the case you've shown interest, a citizen's lack of 4th Amendment rights, makes illegal searches magically legal because you could be a terrorist.

http://www.infowars.com/saved%20page...lice_State.htm

http://www.infowars.com/articles/ps/...rity_state.htm

http://www.infowars.com/martiallawphotos.html

http://www.infowars.com/articles/ps/...n_its_here.htm

It may be a lot to read, but it should be interesting enough that you will not notice. Besides, it's happening in your country...right now.

I also wanted to add that infowars is not the only site around that contains this type of information, it's just a good site for introducing people to our government's true nature. My personal favorite alternate site is http://www.rense.com/ ...Jeff is a bit less agressive than Alex in trying to portray his message.

So anyway, I hope some of this will get you thinking and I hope that I didn't digress too much in the process.

Thanks for the interesting reading material!

[2toker]

back in the early 80's the feds got the names of all people that had bought hydroponic sytems thru high-times magazine. they then raided the locations on the assumption they were using them to grow herb. busted quite a few people in the midwest. so yes, it can and does happen.