*Low-Budget ScrOG Log*

[Harvesthetic]

Hi,

Second grow, Screen of Green attempt it is. New cabinet, and it's a bit too big. Dimensions are depth: 1.5m width: 1.3m height: a stunning 2m (-50 cm space underneath) (Unable to photograph the entire closet yet, because of space restrictions. Will do later. I'm only growing 4 plants, because i want to keep it simple.
Of course, anyone that has or experience with ScrOG or LST is very welcome to adjust my current plan; here it is.

• same lighting set-up as last time, 1 400wHPS lamp with very effective reflection shield. (cabinet painted white, so no need for reflection foil)

• 1 25 cm fan to cool the lamp, and to provide the cabinet with an upper airflow

• planning on buying an exhaust fan. could someone fill me in on that one? i want a reasonable intake/exhaust balance. until now, regular ventilation has done the job for me, with sessions of fanning inbetween.

• 4 clones - white widow - good shape, 1.5 weeks pre-veg in humidity 'dome', which consisted of seethrough plastic with holes in it, primitive, but effective, exactly how I like 'em!

• same soil as last time, Plagron Growmix with perlite, which was perfect for my first grow

• the screen itself is 90 cmX 80cm (2.95ft x 2.62ft), holes are 4 inches wide approx, outer ones are not so wide, to bend the branches, in order to fill the screen

• the clones are on 18-6, goin' easy on the ol' electr. bill

• for feeding, I've done a bit more researching. Started off using the Plagron suggested doses (little less) but now I'm creating custom feeding for the clones. I was able to mess around a lot, and the results of those exps. were easy to notice.
  -custom guano mix/flower fert for pre-soil-feeding (soaked for three days, also thanks to RastaKaze for his extensive Bat-Shit speeches )
  -for vegging: start-up, combined with root-stimulator and extra N
  -pH value- 6.2/6.3 with no possibility of over/under pH values (i'm buying the water now, the tap water CAN'T be trusted here made me lose two plants)
  -for flowering: I think I'm gonna boost them a bit more. will look into the best ferts later

• and yeah you're allowed to LYAO (laugh your ass off) at my CHEAP solutions to all my problems.. (the screen = painting frame with wire & duck tape, screen support = polystyrene + broken ashtray for weight... lamp suspension = old duffelbag belt (hahahah yah..)

So i'm gonna flower quick. But not too quick. I don't wanna make the mistake to flower too soon/late. So when I arrive at that stage, could you inform me to switch to 12-12?

The Question Section
-Considering the internodes & nodes of the plant, which ones are bent best?
-The lower branches, underneath the screen, when should they be removed? I saw some pics where there was absolutely no leafage under the screen? looked a bit like a handicapped plant. Should I do this too? And if so, when?
-the lamp is currently about 30 inches above the plants. I hang the lamp higher every two days, but not too much, I want low grow, no reaching for the sun like sunflowers.
Is it smart to not adjust lamp height in order to grow low or what do you guys suggest? A total elevation (veg to flower) of about ten inches?

Oh i'm sorry if it was too much to read I'll be updating a bit more often, since it's always nice to see a Sea expanding. SOG logs are usually visually compelling, so I'll try to post nice progression pics.
Also, the cabinet is not located in my home. It's hovering in mid-air above some rural road and is completely imaginative. The pictures included are also mere projections of my own illegal thoughts, very accurately, manually drawn with an antique chinese ink needle, scanned for the purpose of boasting.

See you soon
and love thy neighbour and such :thumbsup:

Harvesthetic Reviewed by Harvesthetic on 02-05-2006. *Low-Budget ScrOG Log* Hi, Second grow, Screen of Green attempt it is. New cabinet, and it's a bit too big. Dimensions are depth: 1.5m width: 1.3m height: a stunning 2m (-50 cm space underneath) (Unable to photograph the entire closet yet, because of space restrictions. Will do later. I'm only growing 4 plants, because i want to keep it simple. Of course, anyone that has or experience with ScrOG or LST is very welcome to adjust my current plan; here it is. same lighting set-up as last time, 1 400wHPS lamp Rating: 5

[Powder Puff]

Looks nice!


On pic. two, is the HPS that far up?? I think you could lower it a few inches!


Best of wishes, and good luck!

[Harvesthetic]

Looks nice!


On pic. two, is the HPS that far up?? I think you could lower it a few inches!


Best of wishes, and good luck!

cheers, and normally the light is about 30 inches above the plants, I've read that that is the suggested distance for 400ws (like 20 inches for a 250w)

[amstron]

na, you dont need it 30 inches away from the plants. i had my 250 about 6 inches away with a heat shield. if you have good ventilation. i would bring that down to 12 inches. to measure if its too hot, put you hand on top of your plants, make sure that it isn't uncomfortable an put the light a couple of inches above that

[Powder Puff]

I have a 400W, and it's about 12" as well.. lol.. No fan!!

[Harvesthetic]

na, you dont need it 30 inches away from the plants. i had my 250 about 6 inches away with a heat shield. if you have good ventilation. i would bring that down to 12 inches. to measure if its too hot, put you hand on top of your plants, make sure that it isn't uncomfortable an put the light a couple of inches above that

thx (u 2 PP)

I'm gonna lower the lights yeah i've searched some more. I thought they'd burn up if the light was that close but that might have been a little paranoid. lol :thumbsup:
now this is what i wish to achieve (pic)

[Harvesthetic]

And i'm going to make the holes in the screen a little smaller, so the screen can support more weight.

[BukDatAss]

MMMMMM that looks good this will be interesting.... Yeah my 400w hps is about 4 or 5 inches away from the plants cause I want enough light not only hit the top of the canopy hard but also the bottom..... I do use mylar as well tho but you know what they say the more light the better, I would invest in 1000w but I dont want the elec.bill to get any higher or worry about them ever finding out

[Harvesthetic]

MMMMMM that looks good this will be interesting.... Yeah my 400w hps is about 4 or 5 inches away from the plants cause I want enough light not only hit the top of the canopy hard but also the bottom..... I do use mylar as well tho but you know what they say the more light the better, I would invest in 1000w but I dont want the elec.bill to get any higher or worry about them ever finding out

So I've lowered the 400 hps... The temperature stayed the same, and it wasn't too much of a shock, i planned on gradually lowering the light 1 inch per day.

But... Dear fellow growers i've got a huge issue here... Droopage.. I've posted a thread in plant problems too, to maybe get some specific help.

Plant droopage all around on my ScrOG....... Don't know why (by a LONG shot) because NONE of the environmental 'statistics' were changed, same water, same amount of light, same humidity, same temperatures for sure... same pH, EC and nutrients....

purple branches VERY droopy leaves and apparently NOTHING helps... i'm scared of losing three, because one of them isn't damaged at all.

any suggestions or experience with this WEIRD stuff? because it blows my mind how they can deteriorate like that... i'm not happy and very concerned

Let's hope this doesn't turn out horrible, I managed to save a plant before but this one... blows my mind

[BukDatAss]

WooW and its not Watering? Hmmm cant be much help sorry