Who me? I don't believe anything anyone says on TV or in the press in any way. All I said was that there were some interesting correlations. I don't know exactly when I quit believing in our current system of government but it was based on a lot of things that I have read, heard or seen first hand over the years. Mind you I still believe in our nation and the ideals put forth by our founders and the constitution. But I also truly believe the our government is so far removed from those ideals that it has become a bit of a farce (albeit a well armed and financed farce) and is rapidly collapsing under it's own weight. The two dominant political parties (democans and republicrats) have become almost indistinguishable not in their rhetoric but rather in their actions and the results of those actions.