i agree. we need to abolish our government now before it gets so bad. it's obvious things are going to get worse, and we're in a position now to stop it. i don't want to live in a soviet russia nazi germany type society where we spy on everyone and are crammed into cities and cameras are watching our every move and we have to swipe our card to buy anything and there are checkpoints everywhere and there's no 4th amendment and i'm being taxed to drive and do everything under this electronic federal reserve feudal slave system...that sounds like hell. but that's the direction we've been going, regardless of what puppet is in office.

we need to get back to the constitution and bill of rights. we need to pull our troops home from everywhere in the world, cut off all foreign aid, all of it and protect ourselves here. we need to get back on a monetary system not based on debt. not to mention abolish the CIA and all executive orders and unconstitutional departments and positions. small, limited, in check government with an informed society. that's what we need.

and on the real political spectrum, where one side is total government control, and the other side is no government control (anarchy) we are as close as you be to anarchy, but with a basic rule of law and inherent rights that no one can infringe upon.

their plan will ultimately not work, but that doesn't mean they won't try. if the government uses patsies or nukes a city itself, imagine the police state we'll get. if we get martial law, that's not freedom at all. and it won't protect our freedom either, because under martial law, there is no freedom. and you're not safe when you don't have freedom. but martial law is being touted now as the greatest thing. that crook tommy franks says we'll have to give up the constitution for military government after the next attack, but he thinks martial law is great.