View Poll Results: do you prefer a vaporizer over waterpipes?
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Yes, period.
7 26.92% -
I don't know- I haven't used one...
14 53.85% -
No thanks, I'm loyal to my tried and true pipe.
5 19.23%
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01-27-2006, 01:18 AM #11Senior Member
why you should use a vaporizer
Sorry, for the interruption, but most smokers would like to check this out. I've posted this time and again.
The MAPS-NORML study provides new information on the efficiency of different devices in delivering THC from marijuana to the user.
The percentage of total THC delivered to the user is called the THC transfer rate. The unfiltered joint scored surprisingly well in smoking efficiency, coming in second place with a transfer rate close to 20%. The portable waterpipe did slightly better, and the bong slightly worse. The other devices did notably worse. The vaporizers and electric waterpipe did especially poorly, with transfer rates less than one-third that of the top three devices. Thus, heavy smokers could literally be blowing most of their stash away with bad pipes.
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01-27-2006, 02:13 AM #12Member
why you should use a vaporizer
Originally Posted by beachguy in thongs
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01-27-2006, 02:17 AM #13OPJunior Member
why you should use a vaporizer
beachguy -
if i'm hearing you right, the vaporizers are not delivering the same amount of THC?
interesting...
i would swear it feels better... and longer...
one thing that is definitely true for every time i've used my volcano:
there is absolutely no anxiety, and this really helps my stomach... (celiac disease)...
and my lungs feel better...
but i don't know all that much about chemistry so i should perhaps be a little more humble when posting something as bold as "why you should use a vaporizer"
i don't know...
i'm not saying that i agree with what you said, its just that i'm willing to admit that even IF i'm getting less THC, the vaporizer would make sense for me regardless.
namaste
f
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01-27-2006, 02:25 AM #14Senior Member
why you should use a vaporizer
Yeah, recent tests say that you get three times as much THC through a joint or a bowl.
http://www.maps.org/mmj/vaporizer.html
It's near the bottom, under THC Transfer Rate.
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01-27-2006, 03:09 AM #15OPJunior Member
why you should use a vaporizer
a possible explanation for the different perspectives of beachguy and myself, from the article he quoted:
(findings near the end of the article)
Vaporizers
The vaporizer results appeared more promising, but confusing. The two vaporizers were the only devices to outscore unfiltered joints in terms of raw cannabinoid/tar ratio. The electric hotplate vaporizer did best, with a performance ratio about 25% higher than the unfiltered joint. The hot air gun was just marginally superior, but might have done better had it not been for its water filtration component.
However, the situation was complicated by the fact that the cannabinoids produced by the electric hotplate vaporizer were unusually high in CBN, leaving 30% less THC as a percentage of the total cannabinoids than with the other smoking devices. Since CBN is not psychoactive like THC, recreational users might be expected to consume more smoke to make up for the deficit. (The situation may be different for medical users, who could experience other, medicinal benefits from CBN). For this reason, it seemed advisable to recompute the performance efficiencies of the vaporizers in terms of THC, rather than all cannabinoids. When this was done, the electric hotplate vaporizer turned out to have a lower THC/tar ratio than the unfiltered joint, while the hot air gun was still marginally higher.
so, as a medicinal user, i'm looking for not just the THC effects, but the CBN effects...
great article beachguy-!
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05-17-2006, 03:03 AM #16OPJunior Member
why you should use a vaporizer
Hey all,
sorry for the bad info, but i now definitely RETRACT my statement about the efficiency of the Volcano (not sure about other vaporizers)...
-i no longer think that they are more efficient than waterpipes...
thanks,
b
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05-17-2006, 03:24 AM #17Senior Member
why you should use a vaporizer
I got a volcano that was 500, and I got a 1.5 foot water bong straight ROOR look a like for 50, and I have to say I get way higher off a phat bong rip than ANYTHING. But I use the volcano more to live a healty life style...it gets you baked....just in a totally different way you have to get used to..but you just gotta enjoy it....sativas vape better than indicas..you wont get the couchlock with a vaporizer...but you will get a head high that is awesome...so mainly I vape sativas and bong rip my OG kush
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05-17-2006, 07:36 PM #18Senior Member
why you should use a vaporizer
i made a vaporizer one time. gotta say, i didnt really like the high. and the air-whatever-stuff tasted like hot ass.
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05-17-2006, 09:35 PM #19Senior Member
why you should use a vaporizer
Originally Posted by beachguy in thongs
stoopid beachguy, if you would look further into the ways of bashing a vaporizer.
please listen. The vaporizer that they have used is the Globe Type, VERY CHEAP, VERY CRAPPY Vaporizer. Reason being is that the weed on those types of vapos just sit on a plate that gets hot.. in my style vaporizer, you pack it into a hands free piece.. and you hit it thru the WHIP, drawing hot air through ALL of the bud. not just the bottom part that touches it. So whatever you say, vaporizers deliver more thc than most.
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05-17-2006, 09:54 PM #20Senior Member
why you should use a vaporizer
tobacco is a stomach poison.
I bought a volcano and I still prefer to smoke. The volcano really dried out my throat.
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