Why not unite science with spirituality?

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

i like to think they are already unifyed.


religion strives to prove with faith that god exists and blah blah

science strives to debase religious faith.

it's an unsaid bond

[mrdevious]

I think that spirituality can be proven through science.

lol, that doens't even make sense. what next, proving philosophy through chiropractic?

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

actually, think about it, mrdevious, eventually, science will run into a barrior that can be explained fully, and only, by the simple existance of spirituality.

[Mr Greenthumb]

What you want to do vs What you should do. Life vs Death. Science vs Religion.

All of them are the classical conflicts of life. Those three simple things if explored and thought about enough can raise a hole knew controversy. A breach of ethics and morals for the greater good, commiting two wrongs to make a right.

But i wonder, in a world where everything has to be either "Good" or "Evil", which one would be considered Evil?

If i had to chose, i would call religion evil. I don't belive science and religion could ever blend together. It would be helping eachother to hurt eachother. They are both utterly and completely different things. And nothing can exist without its opposit, without its rival. You can't just take one of them away and they can't possibly be made to help eachother. Science and religion are indeed on the way to infinity, and even though they will eventually end up in the same place they will never connect.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

very well said there at the end there Thumb. very well indeed, that' so true, too, that they will never meet, even though they end in the same place.

[Polymirize]

What you want to do vs What you should do. Life vs Death. Science vs Religion.

All of them are the classical conflicts of life. Those three simple things if explored and thought about enough can raise a hole knew controversy. A breach of ethics and morals for the greater good, commiting two wrongs to make a right.

But i wonder, in a world where everything has to be either "Good" or "Evil", which one would be considered Evil?

Ha Ha! I reject your duality as a false dichotomy!

[Great Blue Heron]

Science is Religion*

in the purest sense, nothing but the seeking of truth
if you have heard the words of a "scientist/physicist" recently(time = illusion)
you may've noticed their words implying this junction of the two has been met
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It is not Science that brings about pollution and the like, although it may provide the methods. It is the mind-set of the participants in the societal game in which strikingly narrow perspectives are exerecised in order to gain dominion over masses by the production of cheap goods. Made just good enough to sell but not good enough they wont break/etc and you will buy more.
Answer:
Awareness
Eternally Aware and it is known a necessity of life is not to roll out of bed with to little sleep to go and sit in your metal box to then go sit under fluorescent lights. If you "job" is useless, do something else!! Whatever you want. ( I know most reading this do not suffer this delusion)
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*The word Spirituality may be more appropriate here as for me it is possible that "religion" can harp too much on the breed of christianity that is societal control/brainwash that seems to remain today. While sprirituality may seem more in line with science, main difference I'd say is that in science there has been constructed a uniform system which makes the communication of what can be labeled TRUTH easier. With spiritual pursuits the communication of truth is also possible for those who so desire it.

[MoonStarer420]

But there's always been a chaotic, random and irrational component to the universe.

There are laws that govren our universe and give it order. Science trys to discover these rules and model them. Quantum mechanics is the best we have to include this "randomness" to creat better models. There is nothing irrational about it, everything has some order to it, from quarks to super clusters of galaxies.

[MoonStarer420]

In my opinion every person on this planet should have the ability to tune the waves of their brain like radios. Can you imagine the possibilities? Limitless I tell you, limitless

Your going to need a reciver, and a device to decode this signals, and also a way to control this and turn it on and off. We don't even know how the brain works. If this was even remotly possable, it will be a long ways off. The most likely possability of this will probally come though implants.

[MoonStarer420]

...I might be wrong but I think that spirituality can be proven through science.

I think you are. Spirituality is based on faith, Science is not. Using science you can acuratly predict events in the future based on models that are based on observations. These are done thousands of times by hundreds of people in order to gain insight on natural phenomina. It will never prove the existance of somthing that is undetectable. Many christains and other religous people say you must have faith in science, when really all you need is an understanding of how energy (light, matter, dark matter, etc.) interacts with itself.