Beat the fuck out of this guy

[slipknotpsycho]

ok, this is for all of you with hard-on's for "justice".

If the man in question had just gotten out of prison, then he'd already served his time. You can't keep punishing someone for the same crime. It's like having a friend who bums bowls from you and keeps reminding you of that one time he chipped in for gas money. After awhile, it gets old. You wouldn't keep rewarding people over and over for the same act. Maybe you should, but it wouldn't be "just", would it...

The cops wouldn't get involved because there was no evidence? Then there probably wasn't. Because cops love to roll with authority and if they didn't, its probably because it was just some halfass story from a couple punk kids that they were smart enough to see through as opposed to believing.

A little problem of "innocent until proven guilty"? Apparently that can be ignored if it gets in the way of justice. But then justice is simply mob rule. Hardly worth getting excited over or even upholding. If you want to say that might makes right you may as well just agree to allowing all the pedophiles and perverts loose. I fail to see the distinction.

Thoughts?

Oh, and as for verbal violence. There's an obvious distinction because, simply to start with, it can be ignored as opposed to physical violence. Most distinctly though, my goal is not to create violence, but rather questioning that might lead to your own mental development. Is that violent?

my thoughts on all this, is you're wise... and basicly say the same things i'm thinking. atleast some people in this thread actually "think" about it instead of saying "oh a sex offender he deserves to have the shit beat out him day in day out"...

and yes cops seem to love to throw criminals such as, assualtists, rapsists, robbers and all that in jail at the first sign of anything wrong... so i still stick with the fact that if this story is all true, then he would have been in custody immedieatly, therefore he wouldn't have been jumped. so there's something about this story not being told... there's no way any cop would've heard "a convicted molester was just trying to get my friends 7 yr. old sister" and not done something about it..

[Fengzi]

Thoughts, Ok, here goes

ok, this is for all of you with hard-on's for "justice".

The cops wouldn't get involved because there was no evidence? Then there probably wasn't. Because cops love to roll with authority and if they didn't, its probably because it was just some halfass story from a couple punk kids that they were smart enough to see through as opposed to believing.?

Good point. Yes, it is certainly possible that this whole story was created by whoever the hell is was(I've long forgotten by now) that started this thread. Then again, most of us do know that many adults, especially cops, aren't too likely to take the words of some stoner kids seriously.

A little problem of "innocent until proven guilty"? Apparently that can be ignored if it gets in the way of justice. But then justice is simply mob rule. Hardly worth getting excited over or even upholding. If you want to say that might makes right you may as well just agree to allowing all the pedophiles and perverts loose. I fail to see the distinction.

Another good point. After re-reading the original post again I do see it was a story of "he head from so and so, who heard from so and so, who heard from..." So yeah, it sounds like the guys who did the beating really were in the wrong. If they had seen it themselves it would be different.

If the man in question had just gotten out of prison, then he'd already served his time. You can't keep punishing someone for the same crime. It's like having a friend who bums bowls from you and keeps reminding you of that one time he chipped in for gas money. After awhile, it gets old. You wouldn't keep rewarding people over and over for the same act. Maybe you should, but it wouldn't be "just", would it... .

So, it sounds like you belive the penalties for child molesters are appropriate? What about the 5 years that guy got after keeping, and repeatedly raping a little boy for 7 years? Is that justice? Should we simply say that he's a swell guy because he served his time. The bottom line is that the penalties for this type of crime are a joke. You could get a longer term for selling weed. These guys, in my opinion, are the worst of the worst. To me, raping a child is a far more horrific crime than shooting some store clerk in a common hold up. And yet, when they get out we're expected to just accept them because they served thier time. Fuck that, I say throw them in a dark little hole for the rest of their lives. Cruel and unusual? Too fucking bad. Sticking your dick in 7 year old girl is pretty cruel and unusual too. They should have thought about that ahead of time.

[friendowl]

man if i was there all your lives would have changed.i would a made some one throw up

[P.E.N.G.U.I.N.]

probably the best point i've seen on this whole thread, ( although i enjoyed penguin's mind body and spirit post :rasta: )

Thanks Pixel.

The gist of that post is that you were wrong to beat him up, and he was wrong to be a pedophile.

If you enjoyed yourself while doing it, not in the sense of enjoying justice served, but in the sense of maliciously harming a fellow human being, then you are no better than he.

If you enjoyed doing the justice and getting him off the streets, then you're fine except for the unescapable fact that you hurt a fellow human being's Body *vague reference to Mind Body and Spirit post*.

Good day, and arguing over this is not going to show anything.

[P.E.N.G.U.I.N.]

so then what about the punk ass kids? does a human being have the right to not be ganged up on? soon as they gang up on someone that has no defense against that many people, by your logic they too should be fair game and stripped of all rights... stop just looking at the crime.. look at the similairities...

7yr. old and a pedophile:
7 yr. old has no defense.
pedophile is fuckin someone up for life.
pedophile has a severe advantage over the child.
pedophile is gaining self gratification at the expense of someone else's pain.

5 punk ass kids and a pedophile:
pedophile has no defense.
punk ass kids are fuckin someone up for life.
punk ass kids have a severe advantage over the pedophile.
punk ass kids are gaining self gratification at the expense of someone else's pain.

Attacking a defenseless person is no different than attacking a person who can defend his or herself. They are equally wrong.

[partyguy420]

dude, that story was the shit. that fucker got what was coming to him man. child molesters suck big time.

agread, as i recall... u said,"sum 40 year old dude, that was SMALL and CREAPY" a small guy dosen't require more then one person and maybe 1 person to back you up. i had the same prolblem with my neabhor and my brother. and he is small. i brought one other friend with me, and the other friend was for the guys son.

[P.E.N.G.U.I.N.]

ok, this is for all of you with hard-on's for "justice".

If the man in question had just gotten out of prison, then he'd already served his time. You can't keep punishing someone for the same crime. It's like having a friend who bums bowls from you and keeps reminding you of that one time he chipped in for gas money. After awhile, it gets old. You wouldn't keep rewarding people over and over for the same act. Maybe you should, but it wouldn't be "just", would it...

The cops wouldn't get involved because there was no evidence? Then there probably wasn't. Because cops love to roll with authority and if they didn't, its probably because it was just some halfass story from a couple punk kids that they were smart enough to see through as opposed to believing.

A little problem of "innocent until proven guilty"? Apparently that can be ignored if it gets in the way of justice. But then justice is simply mob rule. Hardly worth getting excited over or even upholding. If you want to say that might makes right you may as well just agree to allowing all the pedophiles and perverts loose. I fail to see the distinction.

Thoughts?

Oh, and as for verbal violence. There's an obvious distinction because, simply to start with, it can be ignored as opposed to physical violence. Most distinctly though, my goal is not to create violence, but rather questioning that might lead to your own mental development. Is that violent?

Polymirize, you are the mind's needs incarnate. They would do well to listen to you.

Don't focus on how he was outnumbered. 5 people can kill a man, 1 person can kill a man, even in hand to hand combat. It's not a deal of fairness, and I see it as fairer to get the job done quickly than to drag it out and dramatize it.

Pain is pain, if it takes an incident such as that to keep a pedophile in line, so be it. Don't make a muck out of it. He hasn't expressed that he's going to go out and start beating wimpy people with his friends, and for all we know he's generally a pacifistic person, but a pedophile going after a familiar face...that's enough to throw you off the edge. :twocents:

[Juggalotus17]

you all gotta stfu. this guy molested children. IMHO he should've gotten the death penalty. how do you think those children feel? Their lives are fucked up forever and this kids friends sister almost had the same fate and they taught him a fucking lesson. will he ever try again? not unless hes really stupid.

he obviously tried doing it again after prison. so prison doesnt work, a violent beatdown does.

and just cause he got fucked up by 5 or 6 people doesnt mean their pussies for not fighting 1v1. 1v1 would've been more honorable but the fight wasnt over a dispute, it was done to deliver pain and suffering to this fucking loser. and he got what he deserved.

Thank you, Nightfox, for keeping child molesters at bay.

[Nightfox]

ok obviously i didn't say where i was living, i am living in the UK, not america or canada, so this bullshit about parole is not right. over here, if u recall the man who kill and raped two teenage girls, well when he gets out the government wants him to go to australia, because the government says it would be to much to PROTECT him. over here they help fucking perverts and try to put them back into society. and about the girl being in a back alley. well this little girl was getting back from school becasue her mom and dad was working. the fucking freak caught he going down the back alley on her way home. luckly a few ppl saw him and stoped him before he could grab her. ok. i do understand that maybe it wasn't right for all five of us to beat the fuck out of him, but think, if this happend to some one u knew, wouldn't u be filled with rage and anger and want to get a piece of this fucking asshole. we don't consider ourselves a bunch of "punk ass kids", but we do think that this asshole will think twice about trying to pick up little children.

[NextLineIsMine]

BTW I think this is all bull, you want me to belive you are so ballsy that you would smoke pot over the guy's bruised corpse in public its just not done in real life. You made up a story to sound cool to some strangers on the internet, if you did it then why do you need to tell us so bad?