i have done a 8 seeds one time, infused in water for a day or 2, it tastes like cleaner and it even makes the water slightly thick, this was a low dose but within a little while i felt a mild euphoria, after awhile in the dark i saw these creatures out of the blue just crawl up the walls or whatever, it was generally unpleasant, and the seeds are definately not meant for consumption, they are posionous. If you wanna have a real shroom like trip that is more predictable and euphroric, without side effects, try Hawaiin baby wood rose seeds(though they can make you nauseaus some say taking off the shells help), Morning Glory(though it is becoming increasingly more popular for big seed industries to spray longlasting poisionous chemicals that can cause nausea), or Syrian rue, though they can be dangerous because they are MAOI's