god and stuff

[Shelbay]

Lies? Of course they are lies. Not a simple misunderstanding or a misinterpretation of your words but I am a liar. You're EXACTLY right. I only know what I read about you. So, correct or clarify but don't call me a liar.

I made no judgments about you being in prison. Like I said I am involved in prison outreach and I wouldn't be if I didn't want to. How can you bash that? As for me interfering with "every thread" you post on. This is the second, it wasn't directed at you, and I will reply to any thread I like.

There is no need to over-react and get upset. This is an internet forum meant for discussion not just smiles and nods. You have your values... fantastic. So do I.

haha...NOW i know what YOUR problem is...hahaha..nothing to do with this is it?? lol..thanks for the email you know who. :thumbsup: And you are a liar..try smiling instead of arrogance. I can't believe I forgot our "first" discussion. Hope your finances are in better shape.Really. :smokin:

Shelbay Reviewed by Shelbay on 01-20-2006. god and stuff do any of you believe in god and that crap? because obviously i dont. i believe that the whole religion and god movement began long ago, and was started by sum1 who wanted to change the world into a better place, which didnt happen. sad. Rating: 5

[mrdevious]

Howdy Shelbay,

I second that !

I just don't understand how any toker doesn't realize,that only a loving God-could create such a beneficial plant that does so much for everyone,there's no need for evolution to evolve a plant with so many good properties that benefit the Human species,I believe that only God-in His infinite wisdom..would create such a complex set of molecules that are capable of addressing so many Human conditions.

I view those tokers who deny God..and therefore their own soul's,as being flat and one-dimensional..not much above the tape worm..what has happened to their spirituality ? How can one not feel the greater universe and the connectedness of all things,when one is sufficiently high ?

If I have offended alot of the tokers here,I apologize..you have a perfect right to view yerselves as being no greater than an animal..or a tape worm..and to live in denial of yer own immortality.

Have a good one ....

Greetings torog.

First, although I do not believe in god, I still have my spirituality. I know your faith in god has been very spiritually fullfiling, and I'm sure it's all you'll need. but there are those, like myself, who can find their spiritual fullfilment elsewhere, in my case through the teachings of Buddha.

In my case, and that of many other people, I decided to seek guidance elsewhere because I just can't bring myself to believe in god. I was raised christian, but I've researched every debate, every argument, every article I could find to prove the existence of god, and it all fell flat in it's logic. I've searched relentlessly for years, but I've yet to find a single argument that wasn't fallable.

Believe me, there is nothing more I'd like than to believe in god. To find out that we're all taken care of, that justice will innevitably be served for all, that I'll never die. There are actually times when I envy those who believe in god, to live securely in the knowledge of such a wonderfull existence. I'd be the most happy person on earth if I found out that it was all true, but I personally can't believe something just because I want to (I'm not saying that's the case for you or anybody in particular).

However, I see your spirituality has made you a pretty respectable person, so to each is own I guess.

[lemonboy]

Actually I haven't a clue what you are talking about but I suppose I'll let it rest. I'm not really comfortable with where you are taking this and am frankly surprised. I value my safety and security a lot and expect others would as well.

[Ganj]

if you believe in god -- you believe in all gods. in death, religion was created as a form of control. "anything is possible with god", which is why i firmly believe that if we all believed in ourselves with the kind of faith people worship to god(s) --we, too, could create a wholesome reality.

[Euphoric]

christians..those dudes who killed all those kitties b/c they thought they were evil? was that before or after the children's crusade

[Zinnia]

Graffiti on the wall at my school:

"Like it or not, God made pot"

[Oneironaut]

I figure out the God thing a couple years after I figured out the Tooth Fairy, the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus. It wasn't that hard, for me at least. But most people still can't see that there's as much evidence going for God as there is for the other ones. It's a culturally transmitted idea, passed from generation to generation by parents and society, not an actual entity.

[SomeGuy]

christians..those dudes who killed all those kitties b/c they thought they were evil? was that before or after the children's crusade

Someone been reading Vonnegut?

Hey Torog and Shelbay...Im with Yall, though Im only 17...guess I dont have as much of that lifetime experience as you guys.
peace
SG :thumbsup:

[CocaCola]

It's a culturally transmitted idea, passed from generation to generation by parents and society, not an actual entity.

THANK YOU

[BizzleLuvin]

So, you're saying we can now explain the creation of man? :smokin:

man was not CREATED, he evolved from circumstance