Heres afew pics for ya sharpestoner, first pic is just a shot from the top, 2nd pic is looking along the stem you can kinda see how im going about tieing them down the the whole stem is about 1inch above the ground i have little bits of wood to suport it and keep it off the ground, if i remember corectly i think i germinated the seeds about mid october. also while i was out there to water them and check for sex i noticed little hairs forming so i hopeing they are all females i think i'll need another week to really notice tho i tryd to get a pic of the hairs but my camera is pretty crap and couldnt get a good pic...