nochowderforyou sorry im an ass. its hard to hear the tone. anyway i get it now thats what i meant when i showed the plant and said is this an exaple?its taking for ever its filling in now,slowly. the other plant already gone i got 25 grams dried, sooooo cool thanks guys and girls ill try and update soon. and mandy how about you whats happening with your girls they were looking good .... <SKIPPI>