Okay man I ordered some NL seeds on Jan 8th. The payment went through and they emailed me on Jan 11th and today I got them in the mail. I have read nothing but bad things about them yet they shipped faster than sensi seeds. We'll see how they grow. I am just happy to have received anything from them.

I wrote them yesterday asking if they had shipped or what and I got a canned response telling me to wait 4 1/2 -ish weeks. I must be a lucky customer. They serve every 100th one or something!