Quote Originally Posted by F L E S H
I'm sorry siSTAR, but agreeing to disagree is not the way out of this conundrum.
Call this "conundrum" what you want. Unlike you I haven't made it my mission in life to tell everyone they are wrong.

Quote Originally Posted by F L E S H
And you can't change the setting by calling it "spirituality" rather than "religion". Yes, I'm am a militant atheist who is out to put an end to ignorance, thoughtlessness, irrationality, and superstition.
You are neither spiritual OR religious, so wouldn't you be speaking ig·no·rant·ly right now? (2 : UNAWARE, UNINFORMED- ig·no·rant·ly adverb- ig·no·rant·ness noun http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionar...ry&va=ignorant)

Quote Originally Posted by F L E S H
The first two things that must leave people's brains for good are 1) God does NOT exist and 2) There is NO life after death. We must start with those two and worl our way up from there.
You have figured it out, after all these years, and all these SCIENTISTS. You know what we need to do to save ourselves. Wowo, I really must ask you this then, would you like a biscut?

Quote Originally Posted by F L E S H
Also, to say things that your God is different than other people's is a little strange. You either believe in God or you don't. If you are a Christian, you believe in the Christian God. If you're muslim, you believe in Allah, etc. etc. You can't pick and choose what concepts you like to believe in and what others you think should be thrown out.
What if you are none of them? And why can't I pick and choose what resonates with me? Each religion did so, starting their specific religion. You need to quite trying to be the spiritual cop, and leave people be. Who are you to tell me what I can and can't believe?

Quote Originally Posted by F L E S H
That says to me that there are indeed some parts of religion which you think are unreasonable, but you're afraid to go all the way.
Yup, religion is crap, I think I said that. Just because I can't answer everyones questions doesn't mean I have any. It just means that I don't want step on other peoples toes when it comes to their god. I wouldn't want to be like you, I prefer to live and let live. Discussing something is fine, but who are you to come in here and TELL people things.

Quote Originally Posted by F L E S H
But unfortunately, I'm aware that the end of religion won't happen in the next few years, probably not even in my lifetime. In fact, I'm seeing the opposite.
That is because religion is turning into spirituality. People are starting to realize that most of the beliefs are the same just worded differently. Get used to it It is going to get a lot better for me!! And you, will be on a futile mission.

Quote Originally Posted by F L E S H
Nonetheless, religion must and will disappear, at least I truly hope so, or the world and all its peoples will decay into barbarism once again.
Once again, you know excatly what needs to be done. WOW! That must be a good feeling! Right on. Usually people do find their happiness in god. But you might just BE god!

Eva