Christians Beware: Jesus Kills Babies And Supports Genocide

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y'know, i was gonna say... where does it say "'Jesus said this was right"? where does it actually say that jesus agrees with this, and im pretty sure, even though i dont read the bible, that somewhere it says he does not agree with the LORD's workings.


all in all, isnt that why he sacrificed himself? in protest to his own father i say.

How could Jesus not agree with the Lord's working when Jesus IS the Lord. Jesus did not die to protest his father because Jesus was the human form of the father (God). The father (God) the son (Jesus) and the holy spirit (I think this would be the spirit of God/Jesus that we let into our hearts when we get saved) are three different forms of the same being but that's my view, which is different from many others.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

jesus is a human incarnation of the father, whome is an incarnation of the holy spirit.

god was never human untill he was christ.


the experiance was absolutly changing.

[Oneironaut]

oneironaut, can you say equivocation?

I don't know why you always insist so hard on literal interpretation, unless you just think you look heroic charging at straw men.

Well, if we're to accept some things as not literal and indeed merely metaphorical or fictional, how do we separate the truth from the fiction? Where in the Bible does it say "oh, this part didn't really happen, it's just symbolic"? How can you pretend to have faith in Jesus when you know the book he appears in is at least partly fictional? Who's to say it's not all fictional? To deny the truth of part of the Bible is to cast doubt on all of Christianity. And in the absence of evidence, it is only reasonable to conclude that all those wacky assertions of miracles and messiahs are just plain false.

Again, as usual, I think I'm even with you in spirit, sort of, but geez do you have to be such an asshole all the time?

I think people who give Bibles to children are the real assholes. I mean, this is a book that encourages child murder, genocide, racism, slavery, sexism, homophobia, and other destructive qualities. We really need to recognize this book for the mythological hate literature it is. If that makes me an asshole, then fine, I guess I'm an asshole.

The fact is I've rarely seen a fundamentalist christian hardliner who insists on literal interpretation arguing with you on Cannabis.com.

* I say all this out of a sense of love *

Well, to all the non-fundamentalist Christians, this only begs the question: why do you only believe in part of the Bible? How can you believe so wholeheartedly in a messiah who appears in a work of fiction?

[Oneironaut]

You're arguments show no logical reason to conclude that Jesus condoned, let alone acted out, the slaughtering of babies or mass genocide

Are you implying that Jesus is not God?

[Oneironaut]

Oneironaut, I'm so sick of reading your Christian bashing posts... Just please give it a rest, you don't have to, but come on man theres no need for all this negativity! :thumbsup:

Would you condemn me for bashing any other ideology that endorsed genocide? I see that such an ideology has immense influence in this country (about half of all Americans believe the world to be 6,000 years old) and I am doing what I can to combat it. Christianity breeds hatred, war, intolerance, depreciation of earthly life, and anti-scientific attitudes. I think that is good reason to attempt to falsify it.

[Oneironaut]

How can you quote Deuteronomy as speaking of Jesus before his existence? That first passage is over 1200 B.C.

I looked up that passage and it says (33-35) But the Lord Our God handed him over to us, and we crushed him, his sons, and all his people. We conquered all his towns and completely desroyed everyone- men, women, and children. Not a single person was spared. We took all the livestock as plunder for ourselves, along with anything of value from the thowns we ransacked.

Now, use some common sense and realize that a Jesus figure would condemn such actions, and surely God could care less.

These people thought that God had commanded them to create Hell.

I guess that says the same thing.

Well, if God is warlike and Jesus is peacelike, that suggests to me that Jesus is not God and Christianity is a farce. But that's just me and my logic.

[Oneironaut]

jesus is a human incarnation of the father, whome is an incarnation of the holy spirit.

god was never human untill he was christ.


the experiance was absolutly changing.

How so? Didn't God already know what it would be like to be a human? Or did God not know everything?

[beachguy in thongs]

Well, if God is warlike and Jesus is peacelike, that suggests to me that Jesus is not God and Christianity is a farce. But that's just me and my logic.

Well, you may know of my Roman Catholic upbringing, confirmed at St. Mary's. I have never looked at Jesus as God, but a creation of God sent to Earth to help humanity. We killed him, because humanity is evil. The same exact thing happened with Jimi Hendrix. If you don't believe humanity killed Hendrix, drugs did, then don't discuss that. Even if Jesus is not real, he still is better than all of us and someone whom we should all strive to be.

Jesus is God just like the tree in my backyard is God, and me and you. Him being the chosen one gave him a closer relationship with God to be able to relay His messages. But, just like the people threw around a black superstar until 1970, Jesus toured the land blowing peoples' minds. The Emperors were scared, just like President Nixon. What's a better way to strike at the heart of the Black Panthers than to kill Jimi Hendrix? What's a better way to divert attention from previous prophecies, and keep gnostic and pagan religions alive than to kill Jesus Christ?

If we had seen God, as many people saw Christ, mortals would've fallen.

[siSTARindigo]

I didnn't read all of this, as the first post was so weird, I am sure someone has already said everything I would have said. But there is one thing I have to say. Jesus may not have existed??? Are you fucking kidding??

Now on the bible thumping scale I am about as far in the negative that you can get. But jesus, my friend, was real. I won't get into how I know this, or you'll just think I am crazy. He was a human, a plan old no walkin' on water human. But he exsited, and he healed people, mirraculously. He wasn't the only one who did these special things,was buddah made up too, and all 20 or however many dali lahmas, people do these things today. And I am not talking about people in crowds "PRAYING TO THE LORD TO TAKE AWAY THIS 10 YEAR OLDS BLINDNESS". I am talking quiet, spiritual people trainning in different healing modalities.

I am done. I don't know what else to say. I started this thread sober, and smoked one while I worte it. But damn! I am an indigo, and for those who know what that is, know that it was imposible to keep my mouth shut.

Eva

[MoonStarer420]

...he was also black