hello Mand yeah its a whole lot cheaper for me to give her those than to go to Atlantic City . thanks Turtle and Buk, haven't been on line all day putting my grow box together, before it was 2x3 and now it's 3x4. going to put the floor in tomorrow, and put up the mylar.We have a light shop here and i asked how much would a 1000w hps ballast cost, $130.00 i was shocked, so i will be making some cuts soon and put them in soil.:dance: . Skillz never tried tie down how does that work? .