those cfl you have went with are top drawer mobay ,DFL ,idiots they smashed my cool tube cunts,thats me stripped my grow room i done away with all my plants cut down 21 white widows that were 8 days away from flowering all i have left is one of my originals that i was regenarating it was coming on that well that i didnt have the heart to kill it , so i will let it flower next year sometime im havin a total clean out mobay stripping the room down and starting again, im gouing to split it in two ill have two rooms at 12ftx8ftx8ft, i done all the electrics today 4x new sockets trip box and im going in tonight to paint it all white as soon as its finished ill post pics, also got a 1000 watt mh from a freind ,im looking for PPP seeds and white peril, blueberry nebula but the room comes first i might do a soil v hydro grow posting a journal anyway keep it up mate your doin right good ang you can let me know how those envirolight cfl do as im thinking of doing a clone box in my veg room and 4 of them look like the only choice but still to decide on ferts for soil grow ,so if any ideas let me know your input will help a lot, later mate