suicide

[Stfu its Matthew]

Look, the only real answer that I can give you is, YES I think about suicide every single day, all day. I have a chronic illness and everyday it is a major struggle to keep the pill bottle upright. My own family has actually encouraged this becaue they reallize the level of pain that I suffer from. The words everyone always tels you "hang in there, things will get better." are simply bullshit because they don't understand and they never will. But what I have learned and I strongly believe is that, what we want out of life we must take, we must never give up, we must never lay down, we must never quit. Yes life sucks, yes lonely sucks, yes chronic accute pain sucks. WE MUST NEVER STOP TRYING. Please listen when people tell you, hold your head as high as you can, get out, do something anything, just don't sit and dwell. I wish you only the best, the struggle you fight is not yours alone.

damn that was nice truly said man
couldnt have said it better my self :thumbsup:

[stephielamb]

just remeember theres always someone worse off than you. like little children dying of starvation.

[beachguy in thongs]

Or stephielamb trying to smoke a cigarette...

[stephielamb]

shut up :stoned:

[Jimmicrackedcorn]

Accept that you are on your own, your experience of life, even tho other ppl's opinions may change your outlook, is completely unique to you, meaning u r in complete solitude, you could never get any1 to understand depression, because you cannot share ure emotions with ppl, good or bad, cuz you are alone. those around you will die, or move away and time will make them but a blip in ure memory as will every other experience you have up until the point you kick the bucket. Instead of describing depression as a single thing, try and look at why ure depressed, you feel alone? well what made you think you weren't in the first place? what changed that made you go from thinkin you were important to ppl, and had something to live for, to makin the decision that its not? And if you can't deal with being alone, and you don't like accepting that you don't mean a fat lot to whatever the point of existance is, then ure best bet is to kill ureself, but I believe the only reason that its an epidemic in the 'developed' countries, is because we're fed from a very early age, bollox, about self-worth and self-importance that you are put here to drive towards sumfin (usually a successful career and a loving wife with 2.4 kids, picture white pickett fences) but that is not life, that is a fuckin tv dreamland, and it doesn't happen, life is savage, completely and utterly confusing and this scares some ppl cuz they have the delusion that they know what to do in life to be happy (cuz they are surrounded by ppl claiming that they're all happy), why things are right and wrong etc.... and the truth is you don't, but you'd rather delude ureself in to thinking you have a grasp on it, when in reality you are as at a whim to whatevers driving you as a pollen grain bein carried on the air currents, you have to deal with ure shit as it comes, and you can't plan for this. Depression or a fear bought on by the realisation you're insignificant?

[Johnny Hempseed]

Well..yeah..I have thought about suicide..especially this past year..
I lost my stepson in an accident..and we spent a week at his bedside hoping..only to end up having him taken off life support..
My niece is battling leukemia..and my uncle is dying of hep c..
So the feeling that life isn't worth the struggle is one I know..
I stick around because I know from past experience that good days are coming...
I stick around because my wife and loved ones need me...
And because I am curious what's around the corner...

[siSTARindigo]

(usually a successful career and a loving wife with 2.4 kids, picture white pickett fences) but that is not life, that is a fuckin tv dreamland, and it doesn't happen, life is savage, completely and utterly confusing and this scares some ppl cuz they have the delusion that they know what to do in life to be happy (cuz they are surrounded by ppl claiming that they're all happy),


The only reason we are supposed to have a successful career to so we are better consumers. We "must go to college", so that we can make as much money as possible, so we can buy as much as possible. It is not a tv dreamland, it it brainwashing. Real happiness doesn't come from stuff. Sure, life would be so much easier, therefore happier with money. But that is only becuase of the system makes it that way. REAL happiness comes from relationships (friends, family, kids, lovers), even relationships with that seed you painstackenly watered, trimmed, and watched grow into an amazing plant. Or listening to music, making music, making art. These things will enlighten you much more than that 50" flatscreen, or that huge diamond ring.

Eva

[siSTARindigo]

sorry, I haven't quite figured out the quote thing yet :P

[Starchild]

You will not always feel this way.Life is ups and downs.I truly feel that at times when I have gain insight about myself was during times of sadness.There are always other answers other than the drastic measure of suicide which is a permenent thing you cannot take back.Then you have the whole thing about coming back and trying to learn the same lessons in your next life.

I will be happy to talk with you and I am certain others here will as well..

Wonderful Blessings to you

[BukDatAss]

Johnny- I'm sorry to hear about the upset in your life but your right there will be better days to come in the near future. I know you said you have a family so just keep them first in your life and hopefully everything will fall into place.