heaven and hell

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

oneironaut, how can you be so ignorant? you are not your body, you are your mind, your thoughts, your ego, you are the energy that keeps your body alive, that makes your brain work, the energy that makes your thoughts exist to you.

that energy is only imprisoned in your body for the life being...

[beachguy in thongs]

I thought St. Peter decides that for your religion. Plus why would you want to? All the exciting people would be down in hell; Jim Morrision, Jimmi Hendrix, Karl Marx, Julius C., Aristotle, common Aristotle, imagine getting boiled in a pot while chatting with Aristotle....if the place acually existed.

Jesus predicted to his disciples that they would "fall away" from him that night. Peter replied, "Even if all desert you, I will never desert you." Jesus answered, "In truth I tell you, this very night, before the cock crows, you will have denied me three times." Confronted after Jesus had been arrested, Peter did deny knowing Jesus to avoid being arrested himself. When he heard a cock crow, he remembered what Jesus had said, and wept. (Matt. 26:31-35, 69-75; Mark 14: 26-31, 66-72; Luke 22:31-34,54-62; John 18:15-18, 25-27).

[CocaCola]

oneironaut, how can you be so ignorant? you are not your body, you are your mind, your thoughts, your ego, you are the energy that keeps your body alive, that makes your brain work, the energy that makes your thoughts exist to you.

that energy is only imprisoned in your body for the life being...

How can you be so ignorant, Stoner Wolf Guy? Are you denying the fact that our mind isn't a conscious being itself and that it is a bunch of chemicals controlling our thoughts and emotions and movements and such?

Damn, I'm not saying that there isn't anything more to your mind and mental energy but these things work on so many different levels that to say that he is wrong just because you believe something different is really ignorant.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

yes i am denying that. it is not logical for thoughts to be in any way physical entities, or more than 'just' energy.

[CocaCola]

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Question. Did I even say anything about physical entities? Re-read my post and try and try again.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

wait... wow i think i took one too big a hit... bonged some resin... ingenious little idea i had... wow... :P


aanyways...


umm... i am saying that the mind is not the brain, and has nothing to do with the brain, except that the brain is a radio that can tune in and out to and from the mind.

i think my radio is a little broken though

[CocaCola]

I agree with you on that... but we weren't discussing the relation between the "physical brain" and the "mental mind". Or at least that is what I thought. I didn't even read the thread so HA!1

but anyways, you're not denying the existence of chemicals and receptors in the brain causing you to make up all the shit you sense physically?

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

no, they are a part of what makes the brain work...


that'd be like saying the remote controll to the car doesnt have anything in it to make it work, it's jsut the user guiding it.... lol

[CocaCola]

but the chemicals = the batteries. LOL. So what are you going on about you stoned bastard! [I'm not, so I'm pretty upset about that ]

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

ummmmm what arent you understanding here? i am saying that everything we know about the brain is correct, except that it is not a source of thought. it uses thought to transmit and recieve messages to and from the mind, which controlls the body, using the brain, like a remote controll...


it is a computer, it has memory, thought processor, and shows the mind what is going on, while the mind makes it do whatever the mind makes it do.