I find T2 to offer visuals almost equal to 2CE, without the "mindfuck", whether that is good or bad is a purely personal judgement. I am also curious about 2cb-fly, the dragonfly analog, I'll pass on. ^^^And you should maybe give I it's day in court, not a "true" phychedelic in the way of E, or the 4oh stuff, but great at a party!