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    Kerry and the drug war

    Some people seem to want to vote for Kerry in hopes he will make change. If your one of those people, you better think again. From Kerry's web site;

    "Keep Drugs Out Of Our Communities
    John Kerry and John Edwards will aggressively target drug traffickers and dealers and provide funding for coordinated regional efforts aimed at cracking down on drug trafficking. They will also adequately fund drug prevention and treatment, including innovative approaches to requiring treatment for offenders like drug courts."

    I'm sorry, but re-education camps sound just as bad, or worse, then jail to me. "Aggressively" doesn't exactly sound like he plans to ease up on the drug war at all. If you include in the 100,000 more cops he say's he wants to put on the streets of the US, then it don't look to good on the front lines if Kerry gets in office.

    The Toxic Career of Rand Beers
    Kerry's Drug War Zealot
    By SEAN DONAHUE

    "When Rand Beers quit his job as counter-terrorism advisor to President Bush, and signed up with John Kerry's presidential campaign, he quickly became a hero to Democratic Party loyalists and the "Anybody but Bush" crowd. But Beers, who has become Kerry's top national security advisor and would likely serve as National Security Advisor or Secretary of State in a Kerry administration, has a dark history. Under Presidents Clinton and Bush, he served as Assistant Secretary of State for International Narcotics and Law Enforcement Affairs, and was one of the chief architects of and apologists for the United States' cruel policies in Colombia.

    Beers was most closely associated with the disastrous aerial crop fumigation program the U.S. introduced in southern Colombia. The State Department hired DynCorp, a private military contractor, to fly crop dusters at high altitudes over the rainforests of southern Colombia, spraying a chemical cocktail that includes a stronger version of Monsanto's popular and controversial herbicide, Round-Up, over suspected coca fields. Beers was the public face of the fumigation program, defending and advocating for it in Congressional hearings and in the media."

    More here
    http://www.counterpunch.org/donahue01262004.html

    And here
    Here is my take on the war on drugs. John Kerry
    http://mysite.verizon.net/aahpat/2kerrtake.htm

    More here
    http://www.usatoday.com/news/politic...rryprofile.htm

    "As relations improved between the United States and the Soviet Union under Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev, Kerry advocated deep cuts in military programs. He called for cutting $500 million from the "Star Wars" missile defense system and directing the funds to the war on drugs. He also proposed using military bases slated for closing as detention centers for first-time drug offenders."

    Toker
    Libertarian Toker Reviewed by Libertarian Toker on . Kerry and the drug war Some people seem to want to vote for Kerry in hopes he will make change. If your one of those people, you better think again. From Kerry's web site; "Keep Drugs Out Of Our Communities John Kerry and John Edwards will aggressively target drug traffickers and dealers and provide funding for coordinated regional efforts aimed at cracking down on drug trafficking. They will also adequately fund drug prevention and treatment, including innovative approaches to requiring treatment for offenders Rating: 5

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    #2
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    Kerry and the drug war

    thats scary as hell

    i would vote for nader ,,,,if he wasnt for same sex marriage
    guess i stay a criminal a few more years,,ya know

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    #3
    Senior Member

    Kerry and the drug war

    Same sex marriage is ok with me as long as im allowed to hit my bong whenever i want to.

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    #4
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    Kerry and the drug war

    Shure man.They shoud be consentrating on heroin,and the rock man.
    I say fuck the polticks, ther only after more money..
    & that jon kerry can go to hell if hes being blaging about a couple of herbal plants & a couple of bong hits!!!

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    #5
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    Kerry and the drug war

    WOT A FUCK FACE!!!!!!! I AM geting prety eritated!!!


    wiv got a posible 182 on hour arms.....
    som1 shot the fucker!

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    #6
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    Kerry and the drug war

    Don't believe everything you read Json, the Libs would like people to think they're the only ones who support cannabis use...

    http://www.commondreams.org/news2004/0720-10.htm

    peace

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    #7
    Senior Member

    Kerry and the drug war

    i just happen to be stuck with very few chioces
    not voting aint one of them

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    Kerry and the drug war

    Quote Originally Posted by HvyFuel
    Don't believe everything you read Json, the Libs would like people to think they're the only ones who support cannabis use...

    peace

    Well, that first part is from his web site, and seems to be his position on the drug war since it is his stated position on the drug war. If he is going to aggressively wage the drug war, and he will, then your not just voting out bushy, your also voting for an aggressive drug war. Your vote will tell them that is what you want to have happen. Don't be suprised if you get what you vote for.

    Research??? Your link took me to a place that said Kerry supported research. The research has been done, and done over and over again. All that mess is just the bone he is throwing to make you think he, well, I guess to think he supports "cannabis use" as that is what your trying to say with your reply. What exactly do you mean by supporting "cannabis use" anyway. If you really think that Kerry is supporting cannabis use, you better think again. Detention centers for first time offenders, and Drug courts, sounds like total BS to me, not support.

    Toker

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    #9
    Senior Member

    Kerry and the drug war

    Sorry Toker but you're talking about all drugs again. We've had this argument before and I agree with legalising all drugs but in the US at the moment herion and crack have as much chance of being legalised as the Libs have of getting elected.

    Oh and research?? A Libertarian newsletter, someone's personal homepage, and USA Today! Pot calling the kettle black methinks.

    peace

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    #10
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    Kerry and the drug war

    Quote Originally Posted by HvyFuel
    Sorry Toker but you're talking about all drugs again. We've had this argument before and I agree with legalising all drugs but in the US at the moment herion and crack have as much chance of being legalised as the Libs have of getting elected.

    Oh and research?? A Libertarian newsletter, someone's personal homepage, and USA Today! Pot calling the kettle black methinks.

    peace

    I think you may need to read what I wrote again, and try to understand what it is I am saying. This time, try to remember that some of that research I did was at Kerry's web site. I know it's hard to find on your own, so I will get the link for you if you need me to. How much more research do you think really needs to be done on weed to know it makes a good medicine? If it's research in that department that you want, then I can get you as many links to research on medical cannabis as you want. That is why I brought up research. All he has done is support researching weed as medicine! If thats the best we can hope for, then we truely are fucked. You come off like he is some kind of a weed hero. I don't see it. All I see is someone that will continue to do what Bushy is doing, and it looks like where the drug war is concerned, it could get worse if Kerry is elected.

    I don't base my vote on the drug war alone, but I will never vote for someone that wants to continue the drug war. If someone can overlook all the jacked up things wrong with it, and wish to continue it or even do more, then that someone has no biz being prez. If he is to weak to admit the drug war is a failure, or just to stupid to know better then to continue the drug war, then why in the hell would I vote for him? Oh yeah, to be a part of the "anything but Bushy" herd. No thanks man! I have to live with my vote. You don't. You won't be the one facing the chance of detention camps for first time drug offenders on military base's.

    Who votes for who in the USA's elections would kind of be like me telling the Iraqi's who they should vote for. Not a very productive thing to do if ya ask me, since it really isn't up to you to try and decide for US. I don't really mind though, it gives me something to do, and at least your intrested. Not many people really are any more. They just hop on board and go for the ride without ever knowing where their going.

    Toker

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