Kerry and the drug war

[HvyFuel]

Market Place - Waste of forum space, not interested. Your compatriots are fond of saying if you like posting there so much why are you here? A majority of spoilt brats lead by an arsehole IMHO.

Have a nice day.

[NowhereMan]

"If you were quoting from Kerry's website why didn't you put the link on in the first place?"

I did say in my original post that it was from his web site. I forgot the link. I won't always stay in step with what you think is standard practice, so deal with it.

"Kerry's stance on cannabis is a damn site better than Bush's"

If they are the same, how can one be better then the other? A "damn sight better"??? Why? If you think his support for research makes him a damn sight better, you had better think again. Badnariks stance is a damn sight better. Kerry's is nothing but the same old shit rehashed, with some extra tyranny thrown in for good measure.

"I can't see Bush voting to speed up the only research they are going to accept no matter how much independant research you'd care to show them."

And I can't see Kerry doing anything to end the drug war either. Opp's, I forgot that you don't care about the drug war as a whole, only weed matters to you. Kerry will do nothing but continue to jail people for weed. If you support him, you support that action, and you do seem to support him.

"In this election there's nobody else worth voting for."

Kerry is not worth voting for. There is someone worth voting for though, his name is Badnarik. Kerry is as unworthy as Bushy is. They will do the same things. More troops to Iraq, more drug war, more taxes, more prisons, more laws, more cops, more tyranny, less Freedom, the list goes on and on.

"And I'll air my opinion on any election I wish to thanks. With or without your blessing."

Airing your opinion, and trying to sway voters, is two different things. Even more so when your not exactly truthfull with your words. Kerry does not "support cannabis use" in any shape or form, nor does the LP wish for people to think they are the only ones that wish to legalize it. When you make shit up to try and change a voters mind in a country your not even a part of, it's my opinion that is not a very productive thing to be doing. The last time we had a liberal prez, more people were jailed for weed then at any other time. Tell me why I should I think it will be any different this time?

Toker

well im trying to make Kerry aware of the fact I WANT WEED LEGAL
and so do millions of others
to bad they dont vote and and let them know how and why they vote
i like kerry's education mumbo jumbo,(its all mumbo jumbo)to me they all cheat lie and wipe thier ass ,they human afterall,they are politicians


if i vote for his ass it to remove bush
and if he acts like bush
he will have four year to plan his next job

peace

ps just for u my friend
http://www.johnkerry.com/front/splash.html

[Libertarian Toker]

"Only when people think they're so much better than everyone else. I know very well where johnkerry.com is but then I wasn't the one quoting from it."

Well since you can read my mind, what is it that I am thinking now? Don't know? Hmmm, I guess you don't really know what it is I think after all, do ya?

"If I were part of that 'herd' I'd consider wasting my vote on the LP, but as I have no vote to cast I'll continue urging people to vote for the only viable alternative to Bush."

And you say I don't make any sense! Funny, but isn't your statement there kind of a contradiction? I mean if you would vote for the LP(Libertarian Party) then why would you urge people to vote for demonrats? by the way, Libertarians hold a lot of elected offices, over 600 I believe. No chance of a Libertarian getting elected into public office? You better think again.

""Tell me oh explainitive one, what is the difference in the two?"

'Kerry's stance on cannabis is a damn site better than Bush's, I can't see Bush voting to speed up the only research they are going to accept no matter how much independent research you'd care to show them.' Reading statements as a whole often helps."

Thats the only difference you can think of? Not much of a difference is it? Maybe you should try reading the whole Kerry instead of just a part of him.

"I don't need one but what's yours?"

Sure ya do man, you just can't admit it.

"Wait, the mists are clearing, Kerry in the Whitehouse and the LP with less than 10% again. See, it does work. Bye, bye, Asscroft, hello medical use, ...hello legalisation. It's not hard to work out if you take off the LP blinkers."

If you want to say hello to medical use and legalization, Kerry is not your man. He will not do those things. Your blind if you think he will.

"To do that he didn't need to bother voting."

Sure he did. He needed to give you a bone. Looks like it worked in your case.

"It's me trying to make people think only the LP will change anything?"

No, it's you trying say what Libertarians think. It's also you that is trying to say that Kerry is the only one that will change anything, when really he will change nothing.

"Then it's a lie you are trying to make people believe. I'm not debating with the LP, I'm debating with one person last time I checked."

You wanna show me where I said Libertarians were the only ones wanting to legalize? Back up your false acusation with a little fact if ya can. For some reason just you saying it doesn't mean a whole lot to me. As for your one person debate, when you claim Libertarians want people to think they are the only ones that are for legalization, your not just talking about me. You know what they say about liers, when they get cought in one lie, they usually try telling another to cover that one. You will get a lot farther debating me with the truth then you will with lies.

"By who? All you've done is snipe and you're a poor shot."

By me! Funny thing is that I have done it to you while being a poor shot. That don't say much for you does it. I'll tell ya a little secret hvy, if ya don't let words bother you, you won't get so upset that you have to make shit up to feel better about your arguement.

"All arguments but yours are lame aren't they?"

No, just yours on this subject.

"After all, yours is the only opinion that should be heard so let's call everyone stupid and hope they go away."

I don't want you go away. I like arguing with ya. I have seen you call to have people banned though, so I guess your kind of a hypocrite as well as lier. Why you need to make shit up I don't understand, but what the hell, your still fun to play with. Yep, I want my opinion of the drug war heard, and the LP's opinion of the drug war heard also. Is that a crime in England to want to have your opinion heard? When you constently have to make up shit about me that I know is not true, it makes you look rather silly to me. Since your only debating one person, you should know better then to say things about that person that that they know are not true. It tends to make you look like a lier to the very person your trying to debate. You don't need the personal insults, and untrue acusations. I'm fairly sure you could make an arguement without them. Then again, maybe not.

Toker

[Sinsemilla Jones]

Market Place - Waste of forum space, not interested. Your compatriots are fond of saying if you like posting there so much why are you here? A majority of spoilt brats lead by an arsehole IMHO.

Have a nice day.

And I'll post anywhere I damn well please.

I'm able to do it without getting banned.

You have a good one, too.

-Sinse

[Libertarian Toker]

Well Man, I hope you will at least consider voting localy for Libertarians.

Here is something just for you.

Heâ??s a real nowhere man,
Sitting in his nowhere land,
Making all his nowhere plans
For nobody.

Doesnâ??t have a point of view,
Knows not where heâ??s going to,
Isnâ??t he a bit like you and me?
Nowhere man, please listen,
You donâ??t know what youâ??re missing,
Nowhere man, the world is at your command.

Heâ??s as blind as he can be,
Just sees what he wants to see,
Nowhere man can you see me at all?
Doesnâ??t kave a point of view,
Knows not where heâ??s going to,
Isnâ??t he a bit like you and me?
Nowhere man, donâ??t worry,
Take your time, donâ??t hurry,
Leave it all till somebody else
Lend you a hand.

Heâ??s a real nowhere man,
Sitting in his nowhere land,
Making all his nowhere plans
For nobody.

It fits you pretty good actualy.

Toker

[Sinsemilla Jones]

That's what they said about Jesse Ventura.

-Sinse

[Sinsemilla Jones]

You know who Lennon wrote that song about, LT?

Himself.

-Sinse

[Libertarian Toker]

And I'll post anywhere I damn well please.

I'm able to do it without getting banned.

You have a good one, too.

-Sinse

He may be hoping you'll go away Sinse.

First he wrote this;

"And I'll air my opinion on any election I wish to thanks. With or without your blessing."

Then he wrote this;

"All arguments but yours are lame aren't they? After all, yours is the only opinion that should be heard so let's call everyone stupid and hope they go away."

Then he wrote this;

"Your compatriots are fond of saying if you like posting there so much why are you here? A majority of spoilt brats lead by an arsehole IMHO."

Maybe he thinks if he calls you a spoiled brat you will go away, and take your opinion with you. Or maybe he is just kind of hypocritical. No real big deal, we all are to some extent.

Toker

[Libertarian Toker]

You know who Lennon wrote that song about, LT?

Himself.

-Sinse

That may be, but it fits nowhereman pretty good.

Toker

[Sinsemilla Jones]

But surely you realize that a guy who calls himself NowhereMan is probably quite aware of that song, and, in fact, probably named himself after it.

So posting that song to him is kinda like someone posting to you that there's a political party called the Libertarians.

ROFL!

-Sinse