Quote Originally Posted by bonton
I need to know this. Breukelen advocaat, have you ever left the US of A? Mexico and Canada don??t count. Have you got a passport? 85% of Americans don??t have passports, 85% of Brits do. I think it??s relevant if you??re going to publicly express such xenophobic views. I??m stone certain that Torog hasn??t as I can??t believe anywhere else in the world would be stupid enough to let him in.
Yes, I have a passport and have gone to London, other European countries, Bermuda, and other Islands. I don't know why Canada would not "count", but I've been there, too.

I do not think that living in Brooklyn my whole life, and working in Manhattan, where there are 173 nationalities, could make for a ??xenophobic? personality. If I wished to be sheltered from different cultures, I??d move to a more homogenous area. I am talking about stopping the death and destruction, more of which is going to come even by the admission of our idiotic world leaders, from radical Islamic terrorists.

We went into World War II after Japan bombed a military target, Pearl Harbor, and targeted soldiers and equipment. The rulers of Afghanistan decided, for no fucking rational reason on earth, to kill non-military people in planes, New York and Washington, and would have killed our president, and as many other higher-ups in the White House as they could have, if the passengers of one of the planes hadn't stopped them.

The only way that we were able to force surrender from Japan in W.W. II was to nuke them, and they've been non-violent ever since. My uncle, who was a tail-gunner, flew so many missions in the South Pacific, that he was VERY thankful that the bomb was dropped on the bastards, because they showed no sign of giving up. About the only alternative would have been to invite some of the Jap leaders and scientists to a demonstration of the bomb - and show them what they were headed for. Bin laden and his band of savages (not to say that ALL savages are as bad as he is) already KNOW what we have, and went ahead with their murderous assaults with no regard for the consequences - because they ??knew? that we wouldn??t do to them what they would inflict upon us. It??s time to change their minds about that, albeit quite late.

What you don't seem to understand is that the ultimate goal of al quada is the complete destruction of the earth, and it's inhabitants, so that Allah can start over - and get it right: meaning an all-Islam world. I'm not making this up - it's what bin laden, and other maniacs of his ilk, believes.

For the record, I do not believe in a god, or gods. I do not believe that there is a "dialog" that exists that is capable of reasoning with the radical islamics. Even the so-called moderate practitioners of Islam HATE democracy and freedom of, or freedom from, religion - and are not showing signs of changing that view any time soon.

If we had dropped a few nukes on, or carpet bombed, Afghanistan in the first place we wouldn??t be in the mess we are now in. I did not agree with the decision to invade Iraq simply because they didn??t enough to warrant it. We could have boycotted the countries that enabled them, or found other ways of dealing with them. The religious people in government, though, ALWAYS feel more threatened by a non-theistic dictatorship, and that is why we helped Afghanistan fight off the Soviet Union in the first place - which was a gigantic mistake.

Now our idiot president wants the citizens of the United States to learn Arabic! He uses words like "golly", "gosh" and other lame wording to reassure his Arib oil-buddies that we really don't mean any harm. It's time for a MAJOR change right here in the U.S., in your country as well - and abandoning oil as a commodity would be the right way to go. THEN we could really start to live in peace again, which is all anybody in their right mind wants.