[QUOTE=bonton]Breukelen advocaat; you swallow every lie you??re told. Does it never cross your mind that you just might have been suckered?QUOTE]

I KNOW that I've been "suckered": EVERYBODY has been at one time or another - especially regarding politics. I'm not going to do anything to somebody that owes me a little money, but you've got loudmouth punks on this board who brag about planning to go apeshit over a hundred bucks that their friend owes them. As we say where I come from, "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me".

I do not like Bill O'Reilly, but I don't think that he is a "nazi", or anything like that. The same goes for Bush, and anybody would be a fool to think that he would risk his very life and/or liberty to take part in a plan that killed three thousand civilians and rescue workers on 9/11.

I wouldn't have felt any differently about the attack(s) had I not seen it, but I was there in lower NYC on 9/11. This was not the first time, because I was across the street from the WTC when the bombing in 1993 occurred. I'm getting a LITTLE fucking sick and tired of these raghead bastards killing my neighbors, and other innocent people.

Our "leaders", such as Jimmy "Howdy Doody" Carter, Ronald ("star wars", "evil empire", etc.) Reagan, George ("I'm not sure that atheists should be citizens") Bush Sr., his son GWB, Blair, and others are not, to say the least, totally in touch with reality. I know that, so don't think that everything is getting by me. Their stupidity is a matter of degrees - but to label them as completely evil is going too far.

I do NOT consider myself as "conservative", but do believe in justice and the preservation of our democracy and freedoms. If we have to bite the bullet for a time to be safer, then I will comply - as I do every day without crying about it. Despite what your press tells you, those of us in New York, Washington, etc., do not live in fear - at least not any more than in citizens in London after the train bombings.

The "War on Terror" has been working well enough so far, but I would rather that we had pattern-bombed, or nuked, Afghanistan right away to show them that we're not playing any more games. I don't want to "convert" these people to christinsanity, democratic capitalism, or anything else: I just want them to behave, so that we don't have to kill them all. And THAT is the position that the leaders of the Free World should have hammered home - and actions speak louder than word, especially after attacks such as 2005 London and 2001 Washington and New York. Once they've had fair warning, and STILL allow these barbaric actions, then all bets are off.

Just my :twocents: