if there's a hell, this is it

[mugshot]

Dude, check it. I've been practicing shamanism for about 8 years. No that doesn't make me an expert or anything. I just want to share something I picked up along the way. Here are my ramblings.

The problem with many practices/phylosophies/ideas is that people try to turn them into a religion. Take taoism for instance. There are those that use the teachings of the Tao as a suggestion on how to live and act. There are others that take it to extremes. Now Taoism really isn't a "problem religion" by that I mean people don't go out and kill others in it's name. But take Christianity. How many lives could be spared if people just looked at the bible and took it as a guidebook and not a religion? Look at islam, same question. The problem with this world is that there are no absolutes. Nothing is absolutely right or absolutely wrong. That being said, Shamanism won't be your answer for everything just as Taoism can't answer every question I have.

My main point here is don't put too much stock in any one thing. There are no constants. Only what we perceive. (Oh man, that sounds like something out of the Matrix lol)

If this makes no sense what so ever I blaim the weed.

mugshot Reviewed by mugshot on 01-06-2006. if there's a hell, this is it I hate today's world. I myself am the only person 'connected' to my spiritual self in my family (rest of 'em are straight athiest), and It's extremely frustrating trying to explain philosphical standpoints when everyone on around you tends to get a wide grin and occasionally laugh at what you have to say. I just feel so strongly that there is SO much more to life then the physical world. Something much, much greater... yes, that is without question. Anyway recently I picked up shamanism, and Rating: 5

[beachguy in thongs]

Blame the weed, mugshot. What the hell is it thinking putting thoughts in your head that serve no purpose to your immediate creators?

Unless your parent are Shaman, also.

[RastaKaze]

Dude, check it. I've been practicing shamanism for about 8 years. No that doesn't make me an expert or anything. I just want to share something I picked up along the way. Here are my ramblings.

The problem with many practices/phylosophies/ideas is that people try to turn them into a religion. Take taoism for instance. There are those that use the teachings of the Tao as a suggestion on how to live and act. There are others that take it to extremes. Now Taoism really isn't a "problem religion" by that I mean people don't go out and kill others in it's name. But take Christianity. How many lives could be spared if people just looked at the bible and took it as a guidebook and not a religion? Look at islam, same question. The problem with this world is that there are no absolutes. Nothing is absolutely right or absolutely wrong. That being said, Shamanism won't be your answer for everything just as Taoism can't answer every question I have.

My main point here is don't put too much stock in any one thing. There are no constants. Only what we perceive. (Oh man, that sounds like something out of the Matrix lol)

If this makes no sense what so ever I blaim the weed.

Dude, I love you.

I know exactly what you're saying.

I don't consider myself someone who is familiar with shamanism, but rather, shamanics. The "way" of the shaman as you stated.

[Polymirize]

damn RastaKaze, I'd almost call you enlightened, except for you choosing to condemn your current existence as hell.

My fleeting glimpses of what I consider to be reality showed my the infinite expansion of an infinite number of possiblities. Times infinity. Its hard to explain, I like to think of fractals, which just so happen to be found everywhere. The golden spiral and all. So many metaphors to describe what the shaman has seen and yet so few choose to understand them, we just don't have the language to describe the infinite nature of reality.

[mugshot]

Blame the weed, mugshot. What the hell is it thinking putting thoughts in your head that serve no purpose to your immediate creators?

Unless your parent are Shaman, also.

Dude I have no clue what you mean by this statement lol

[RastaKaze]

So many metaphors to describe what the shaman has seen and yet so few choose to understand them, we just don't have the language to describe the infinite nature of reality.

And THIS is why everyone needs to master these abilities of ecstatic ectasy-- for if we as humans, came together in an effort to understand the nature of entheogens/psychadelics as well as our complex, complex relationship we have with them... Then, and only then, will the phrase "Anything is possible" have any true value

[Polymirize]

oh, so you meant hell in the sense that hell is seperation from "god" (since we're using the christian archytypes to describe it currently)?

But the more enlightened you are then, the further you are from hell, right? So, it seems to me like you're a fairly openminded individual, what's separating you from the touch of the divine right now?

[RastaKaze]

LOL, that thread title was a bad choice. I was simply expressing my feeling at the time, I didn't put any real stock in the thread title. Read the first post...

[beachguy in thongs]

I had no idea, at first. This is what I came up with:

I blaim the weed.

Blame the weed, mugshot.

Dude I have no clue what you mean by this statement lol

The rest is like counting the dice during the roll. :smokin: