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    #1
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    Rebirth through atheism

    We built our beliefs around others, our parents, our siblings, friends, and tv, unfortunetly. I think it would just be human, to cleanse ourselves of what we think we know, believe nothing, then learn and take in your own information and base your beliefs on that. Most christians base their beliefs on what people tell them, and not by interpreting the bible for themselves. I mean, I have, and it's alot more metaphysical and actually kind of like buddhism and shintoistic structure. Kind of like, Jesus represents us, humanity, the sons and daughters of the earth who exist to allow the unity conciousness to see through our eyes. Stuff like that.

    Maybe it's self brainwashing, maybe it's really how we should live.
    Koh Musu Reviewed by Koh Musu on . Rebirth through atheism We built our beliefs around others, our parents, our siblings, friends, and tv, unfortunetly. I think it would just be human, to cleanse ourselves of what we think we know, believe nothing, then learn and take in your own information and base your beliefs on that. Most christians base their beliefs on what people tell them, and not by interpreting the bible for themselves. I mean, I have, and it's alot more metaphysical and actually kind of like buddhism and shintoistic structure. Kind of Rating: 5

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    #2
    Senior Member

    Rebirth through atheism

    People need to forget tradition, etiquitte, religion, government, and pretty much everything. Society and culture are just ways of following others' footsteps.

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    #3
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    Rebirth through atheism

    Everyone, literally, is born an Atheist. Nobody is "born" a Christian, Jew, Moslum, Hindu, Buddhist, etc. They are either trained in these religions from childhood, or learn about them when they get older.

    Atheism is a subject that most people know little, or nothing, about. The knowledge and history of it has been suppressed by organized religion, but will triumphantly return to it's rightful place in human evolution in the future - provided the religionists, and/or people involved with other crackpot political/social systems, don't destroy the earth and it's human inhabitants first.



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    #4
    Senior Member

    Rebirth through atheism

    Religion is slowly but surely crumbling. Future generations will study Christianity and Islam the same way we study Greek and Roman mythology.

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    #5
    Senior Member

    Rebirth through atheism

    Religion is slowly but surely crumbling. Future generations will study Christianity and Islam the same way we study Greek and Roman mythology.
    they'll be studing our whole way of live....weird if you think about it.... we'll have a segment in school history books...crazy!

    I think it would just be human, to cleanse ourselves of what we think we know, believe nothing, then learn and take in your own information
    "BE THE OBSERVER"
    TAKE EVERYTHING IN
    ITS WHAT WE WERE WHEN WE CAME INTO THIS WORLD
    AND WHAT WE STILL ARE BEHIND THE SHEET OF BELIEFS THAT COVER US...

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    #6
    Senior Member

    Rebirth through atheism

    Quote Originally Posted by Koh Musu
    Most christians base their beliefs on what people tell them, and not by interpreting the bible for themselves. I mean, I have, and it's alot more metaphysical and actually kind of like buddhism and shintoistic structure. Kind of like, Jesus represents us, humanity, the sons and daughters of the earth who exist to allow the unity conciousness to see through our eyes. Stuff like that.

    Maybe it's self brainwashing, maybe it's really how we should live.
    Most christians, jews, atheists, buddhists, muslims, hindus, etc base their beliefs on what people tell them. Unless YOU'RE a scientist out there interpreting your OWN findings, fossils, etc, than a belief in evolution is entirely based on the same faith as christianity. You're probably right, I've found that in the christian world there are few whome have the desire to really study why/what they believe. The same goes for atheists though too. Atheists have books that tell them "look what people have found", and they base their system on that. Christians base their beliefs on books that claim to be of divine origin (under direction of God)...now to believe that the bible is God's true word would mean that whatever "humanity" thinks it knows, if it goes against what the Lord says than we can't possibly have got it right. This may be "blind faith" to some, but if I'm going to believe in the bible, a book that claims to be the source of all knowledge and wisdom, than you can see why I take the word of God over the word of man.

    Of course the world and it's questions make more sense when God shows us. People say that you shouldn't look to organized religion, but that is because they don't believe in evil. If we are fallen people, as the bible claims, than we have no way of talking to God, save through his terms. Where would we possibly learn of these terms of agreement? I would assume he'd have some way of letting us know, and he has through inspiring people throughout history. This history has been played out, and written down and at last through God's incarnation into a man do we possibly have a means of communication. That's where the bible is theologically flawless. It's too unpredictable...it has that twist to it that "real" things tend to have.

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    #7
    Senior Member

    Rebirth through atheism

    Quote Originally Posted by Breukelen advocaat
    Everyone, literally, is born an Atheist. Nobody is "born" a Christian, Jew, Moslum, Hindu, Buddhist, etc. They are either trained in these religions from childhood, or learn about them when they get older.
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    See this is where I disagree. According to the bible, we're born closer to God than we will ever be. I'm sure that we're with God in some way while we're alive in the womb (no way of really knowing but it would make sense). This is because the bible says that we're all born knowing God, and knowing truth and that we lose our innocence and become guilty as we become more human (I mean older, but in a sense we develope more human-like attributes as we age).

    Quote Originally Posted by Breukelen advocaat
    Atheism is a subject that most people know little, or nothing, about. The knowledge and history of it has been suppressed by organized religion, but will triumphantly return to it's rightful place in human evolution in the future - provided the religionists, and/or people involved with other crackpot political/social systems, don't destroy the earth and it's human inhabitants first.
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    So you blame the religious world for the negativity it has caused? Keep in mind that communism and fascism used atheism to justify the atrocities like the haulocaust, genocide, and acts against humanity. The soviets, nazis, Iraq under Hussein, etc. There are atrocities commited like the crusades by people who've claimed to be under the direction of God, but keep in mind that any claim involving unneccesary slaughter would not be justified sanely by the bible.
    Also, I'm not sure of your religious beliefs, but you seem to hold atheism, and particularily humanity on some kind of pedestal. It's intellectually suicidal to believe that humanity has improved. That is where I must start. Our methods of problem solving, and common sense have always been the same, but it's been the accumulation of technology and information that have brought us to this new age. Thousands of years ago they were teaching something like greek mythology in schools, as if it were historical...nowadays we're teaching theories like evolution as if they are infallible historical fact. A thousand years from now we're teachign that we're the descendents of space aliens as if it's a fact. Looking back at what we USED to believe should at least give us an idea that what we believe now is based on the same earth we have now

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    #8
    Senior Member

    Rebirth through atheism

    Quote Originally Posted by Oneironaut
    Religion is slowly but surely crumbling. Future generations will study Christianity and Islam the same way we study Greek and Roman mythology.
    And what do you propose they will teach in place of these religions?

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    #9
    Senior Member

    Rebirth through atheism

    Pyramidsonmars do you have any idea what you're even saying anymore? Athesism caused maybe 1% of the wars over all of time, while people and nations that followed an actual religion caused ohhh somewhere around 80%. Communism does not use athesism to justify the holocaust because uhhhh they faught AGAINST it. And since you seem to have read the bible i do understand your strong religious position.

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    #10
    Senior Member

    Rebirth through atheism

    I was born Catholic, but now I just consider myself Christian. I don't know if it was because I have gone to Catholic school all my life and am just sick of the bull shit they try to teach me or something else. I formulated my own beliefs from reading the bible, and listening to some wise people that I respect. A lot of the things the Catholic religion teaches has no roots in the bible, and I disagree with those things. I love Jesus and his teachings, and that is what I follow, not some man in a dress that can forgive my sins.

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