you guys are awesome! she's not a virgin and i may have played too pushy. lol, i hadn't seen the girl in a year and thought the wrong idea. it's all g-double o-d good though. i'll find someone. she's a cool girl and i shouldn't have put her in a situation like that. it's not a game. i was persistant. i tried to control the situation, but she wasn't feeling it. who knows?