Nochowderforyou...

[RastaKaze]

Dude trust me I totally feel you on it not being recreational, I totally respect it the brew, it's purpose, and creators. Infact, with my order (syrian rue & mimosa hostilis + a few other ingredients) I added several books on shamanism and the art a ayahuasca so I could try to train myself a little bit before I dive into that shit... But I'll most definitely be moving correct? What if I were to remove any harmful objects from my room and lock the door... does it make you fall over and stuff? From what you described it sounds like a mushroom trip in the sense that you weren't freaked out by any of the entities you came in contact with... after the 5 minutes of absolute horror, that is.

[RastaKaze]

Hehe... bump!

[Nochowderforyou]

Dude trust me I totally feel you on it not being recreational, I totally respect it the brew, it's purpose, and creators. Infact, with my order (syrian rue & mimosa hostilis + a few other ingredients) I added several books on shamanism and the art a ayahuasca so I could try to train myself a little bit before I dive into that shit... But I'll most definitely be moving correct? What if I were to remove any harmful objects from my room and lock the door... does it make you fall over and stuff? From what you described it sounds like a mushroom trip in the sense that you weren't freaked out by any of the entities you came in contact with... after the 5 minutes of absolute horror, that is.

Wow, sounds like you are well on your way on having a good time with it. It's good to do research as a lot of people don't, just dive in, and have a bad time with it.

I did a lot of reading on it's effects, then it's purpose, a little bit of history, then I happened to stay in touch with a Brazilian man whom I use to work with, he gave it me, was a sitter for me, and told me I could try this medicine as prescription drugs are damaging, expensive, and only work for so long before the body gets immune to them, and addicted to them.

No falling over, but sit down when you are drinking it as you will feel major couchlock (eg. numbness of the legs) and you may fall over. Keep a bucket near by for incase of vomit. Vomit will most likely come within the first 20min of drinking it, anything after that, nervous sytem will be fine but be prepared to see things. First 5min are really intense, but is an experience all on it's own, and what comes after that, is worth the paranioa. That's why you should have a sober sitter with you. You may never know what you may do to stop the intensity.

Every trip report I have read about Aya., everyone has had an encounter with some person or persons or beings, that are suppose to, lets say...ease you of your troubles, or as the tribes people say, "cleanse your soul." A rebirth perhaps.

I read one report of a person, where, while on Aya., they experienced birth. Coming out of the womb, being born, everything! Imagine that man, that would trip me the fuck out. :stoned:

It's nothing like a mushroom trip, it's in a league all on it's own. During the first 5min of horror, imagine being paralyzed, or, imagine your whole body being asleep, like that tingly numb feeling you get in your arm or leg sometimes, imagine not being able to move, but every blink you take, or everytime you close your eyes, a bright image, disturbing images, flash like a strobe light. So everytime you blink, it's a strobe...on, off, on, off...over and over and over, like a never ending cycle...then, it stops. You are safe, no more images, but then BARF!

After the barfing, it is bliss, heaven for a good 3hrs or so.

[weedman7]

woah
where do u get this shit from

[RastaKaze]

I'm sorry but what exactly do you mean by bliss? I'm not quite sure I understand... Ok so, what your saying is that, you should have a sitter with you durng the scary part just in case... What I'm trying to say is, would it be viable to have someone sit with me until the horror ended, then have them exit so I can focus on the 'blissful' part of the vision?

[Nochowderforyou]

woah
where do u get this shit from

I got mine from the Brazilian guy, who's name will remain silent,he got it from Brazil from his relatives where they have ceremonies every weekend that last for days while drinking this stuff.

Other than that, I have no clue.

[RastaKaze]

Shamans have different preperation methods for ayahuasca depending on the region... Mine is a south american recipe composed of mimosa hostilis bark, peganam harmala seeds and the juice of a lemon. Then it involves hours of boiling, etc plus some fresh tobacco.

[Nochowderforyou]

I'm sorry but what exactly do you mean by bliss? I'm not quite sure I understand... Ok so, what your saying is that, you should have a sitter with you durng the scary part just in case... What I'm trying to say is, would it be viable to have someone sit with me until the horror ended, then have them exit so I can focus on the 'blissful' part of the vision?

The definition of bliss, from google:

bliss (blĭs)
n.
-Extreme happiness; ecstasy.
-The ecstasy of salvation; spiritual joy.

phrasal verb:
bliss out Slang.

-To go into a state of ecstasy.

I mean, happiness, pure joy, like the way you felt on X-mas morning when you were 8, not a care in the world.

A sitter is a good idea, just to keep you level headed. You don't have to have someone there with in the room, or beside you while you do it, just make sure they are in the same house as you, or near enough so they can hear you. You don't need someone holding you hand, ya know? Just so if things get a little sideways, someone is there to keep you calm, in the house, or nearby. Know what I'm saying?

[Nochowderforyou]

Shamans have different preperation methods for ayahuasca depending on the region... Mine is a south american recipe composed of mimosa hostilis bark, peganam harmala seeds and the juice of a lemon. Then it involves hours of boiling, etc plus some fresh tobacco.

Hmmm. sounds interesting. Mine was made with fresh tobacco too. I'm guessing lemon as well, as it tasted like a citrus, ciggarette butt smoothie.

[RastaKaze]

Got it. Thanks alot seriously man, you've helped me feel a hell of a lot more open to it... lord knows you can go messing around with an ancient psycoactive potion if you're frightened of what it might do... But I really need some guidance in my life right now, you know what I mean.