Evolution or God????. . . .

[msactech1]

Sometimes I wish life was an illusion.
I have read up on evolution. I went to school, too. What I am saying is that evolution is not a fact backed up by physical evidence. It is a theory that people choose to put thier faith into. It is a bunch of ideas built up to support an idea. It is a religion. Some people choose Jesus, some Budda, some Alah, some evolutionist, ect.
If you want to believe in evolution, that is your right, but as often as I see offensive comments about my beliefs, I have to be honest. It's the stupidest idea I've ever heard of.
I like to respect others beliefs and way of life, but everytime I see a person say something positive about Christainity someone else knocks it down. Why should I speak respectable things about other religions when all you people do is curse Christianity. I would be willing to respect everyone's beliefs if everyone would agree to respect my form of Christianity.
It's human nature to hide from God. The first thing Adam and Eve did when thier eyes were opened was go and hide from God. That's all evolution is. A place to try to hide from God. Good luck with that.
I'd be more willing to keep my ideas about evolution off this website, but I don't see the fairness when every thread I open, somebodies putting down Christianity.
I can agree with somethings. I do not agree with bible thumpers who try to portray God as a fire breathing tyrant. He is Love, Life, and Creator. You must understand that most people who claim Christianity are selling a nazi communist version of Christianity. According to my Bible I am free from the laws of sin and death. There is no condemnation for those who follow Christ, the only true God. :thumbsup:

[skarz]

I'm not saying I do think life is only an illusion... but it's a possibility and no one really can say what life is or isn't. Religion was created by man and whatever religion you choose you are not right or wrong, there are no right and wrongs with religion. Nothing can be proven, it's all opinion/faith based, you can not argue one is better then the other.

Religions are fucking complicated

[Az.]

How do you know life is nothing more then an illusion?

you dont....nothing can be proved so we dont actually know anything about anything....

""Descartes was writing one evening in his room, and he thought to himself (paraphrasing very loosely): What if I am asleep in bed right now, and only dreaming that I am awake, and writing? Isn't that at least possible? Then he said, well surely, I can tell when I am awake and when I am asleep. I can tell the difference between wakefulness and a dream. All sorts of strange things happen in dreams; I pass unaccountably from scene to scene when I'm dreaming; I don't have any long memory of what happened in a day, when I'm dreaming; and so forth. Then Descartes said: Haven't I had those very thoughts in some of my dreams? Sometimes, when I was dreaming, I was convinced that I was awake! I even tried to test that I was awake, when I was dreaming, and the tests convinced me that I was awake! But I was wrong; I was dreaming. Isn't it quite possible that the same thing is happening to me right now? Isn't it possible that I am dreaming that I can test whether I'm awake or asleep -- and of course, in my dream, I pass the test? So it seems really vivid to me right now that I'm awake -- but in fact, I'm asleep?

Well, Descartes said to himself, I guess there aren't any definite signs, or tests, that I could use to tell whether I'm asleep or dreaming. I could, after all, be dreaming those very tests. I have experience of doing that, thinking that I passed the test for being awake, when really I was only dreaming. So there isn't any way to tell that I am awake now. I cannot possibly prove that I am awake. So, Descartes said to himself, I don't really know that I am awake now and writing in the evening. For all I really know, I could be asleep. That's Descartes' dreaming doubt.""
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophical_skepticism)

Read that page on wikipedia....it's really quite interesting.....but I think I think too much about things like this!!

I just noticed that you said nothing cn be proved....i agree....you also said it's down to perception.....but how can you be sure what you are percieving is real? It could be anything.....

My head is sooooo confused about shit like this....not to the point where it effects my life but just enough that I can't even comprehend what the fuck im thinking of......hahaha maybe it's just the weed!!

[msactech1]

My words fall on deaf ears...
...or is it willingly ignorant?
If I said I know a book that is two thousand years old that says you would be here saying what you said, would you believe me, then? We have so much knowledge in the world today and so many fools full of knowledge. Could it be that all this knowledge is worthless without wisdom? You don't even know if you are real or not. Of course you are real, you just don't have a clue where the hell you came from or where you'll be after this life. Or do you, but just chose to reject wisdom?
May I quote from that book I mentioned earlier?
<2Peter 3:3-18>
<3First of all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. 4They will say, "Where is this 'coming' he promised? Ever since our fathers died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation." 5But they deliberately forget that long ago by God's word the heavens existed and the earth was formed out of water and by water. 6By these waters also the world of that time was deluged and destroyed. 7By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.

8But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. 9The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.

10But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything in it will be laid bare.[a]

11Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives 12as you look forward to the day of God and speed its coming.[b]That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat. 13But in keeping with his promise we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth, the home of righteousness.

14So then, dear friends, since you are looking forward to this, make every effort to be found spotless, blameless and at peace with him. 15Bear in mind that our Lord's patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. 16He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.

17Therefore, dear friends, since you already know this, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by the error of lawless men and fall from your secure position. 18But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and forever! Amen.>

If this offends you, I'm sorry. Most people are dissapointed when they hear the truth. This should not enrage anybody because I am obviously out numbered, here.
I came here to read about my other passion, marijuana. I just think that it's so rediculous that I constantly hear people complaining that thier religion has people insulting it, while at the same time they insult my religion. I'm not Republican. They're liars. They say they are Christian and then take all your rights. I'm for religious freedom. Why can't people find some other religion to bash besides Christianity?
:thumbsup:

[msactech1]

I'm not trying to ruffle anyone's feathers. When I get tired of this, I'll go away so we can be at peace with each other. Be nice if we could meet and smoke a big ass fatty together. I think we'd have a deeper respect for each other, then. It's easy to insult each other or feel insulted when we're just words on a page. I just hope you can understand that true Christians are not the ones trying to take you're freedom. The ones that are, they are either liars are following the liars.
Let's try to be at peace. Stop bashing my faith and you'd never heard from me. My friends have different beliefs than me. That's fine, we just have to find some other subject to relate. So, you can speak nicely of my beliefs understanding that I'm not out to get you. I want my freedom and people to respectfully allow me to live my life, just like you. I can't help it if the majority of the world follows Christianity out of popularity. They are not with me.:thumbsup:

[skarz]

I understand where you're coming from msactech1, but just because it was written in a book ages ago doesn't mean it is right. There is no way to determine right or wrong, it's all based on belief and the reason christianity has spread so far is mainly because it was forced on a lot of cultures and now it is common worldwide. I'm not bashing christians at all, their choice is their choice, I live in a family of christians. The fact is a book doesn't justify one group saying their right and someone else's beliefs aren't just because this book says so.

[Jeff Spicoli]

no such thing as god, and jesus isn't really the son of "god". all made up hocus pocus. evolution, it's common sense

[msactech1]

I'm sorry that you are wrong. I hope that one day your eyes will be opened to the Truth. Untill then we can just be bud buddies.
I think I'm about done with this thread. I'm not going to argue. There is no way anybody could change my mind. You might as well tell me my weed is pink. I have experienced God's work in my life and will not accept any other explanation. Another reason is so you won't think I'm trying to force you to believe me. One of my main points I'm trying to make is that I respect people's rights to choose for themselves. I do not bash the religions of my friends because they allow me to freely view life as I see it. I try to avoid insulting anyone about thier ethnic background, religion, ect. I even strive to accept gay people. Jesus taught me not to judge people or look down on them.
I am even supposed to love my enemy. Hard to do because I can't think of any, but if I do get an enemy I will try to remember to love him.
Anyways good to meet your writings. Hopefully some of yall know a lot about weed. I will see you again, than, in the other threads. I will try to resist the temptation, but if I post again in this thread, I just couldn't help myself.
Peace out.

Msactech1 a.k.a. JesusMadePot

[skarz]

I don't think Jesus made pot, I think God would've made it far before Jesus did.

[msactech1]

Jesus was God incarnate. To be in Israel in those days and claim to be the Son of God would of been the same as claiming to be equal to God. He revealed Himself throughout the old and mostly the new testement as God.
The Bible says the Spirit created the earth. The Spirit is the power and presence of God. That is the same power Jesus the Christ used to heal and do miracles. It is also the reserection power that raised Him from death. Jesus had this power because He was God incarnate. He became man so He could die and defeat the laws of sin and death because only a person who lived a perfect life could do that. No man is perfect, so He chose to become a man to die and pay the penalty for sin. He just doesn't force you to accept the gift He gave when He died. You are allowed to reject Him. He doesn't force it, so niether do I. I'm just honest and open about it.
What I am saying is that there is only one God. We call Him triune because He revealed Himself to man as God the Father, God the Holy Spirit, and God the Son. Same God but in three different forms. That is why I believe Jesus is God the Creator. It says He created all the plants, pot included. I believe pot is a sacred medicine. It's not for everybody, but it is good for me.
I couldn't help it. I just wanted to answer your question so you would see where I was coming from. No harm intended. Thank you for listening.
I hope that clarified things cuzz I'm really :stoned: