Evolution or God????. . . .

[Euphoric]

had this convo so many times before...

Darwin himself made the point that Evolution works until you get down to the cellular level.

He observed that there is one part of a cell that couldn't have possibly happened by chance. The mechanism a cell uses to propel itself is an intricate outboard motor that is constructed in such a way that, in Darwin's opinion, it had to have been designed by a "Grand Engineer". By acknowleding this, he himself conceded that there must be a "higher power" be it God, aliens or whatever.

The simple and single celled organisms took a lot longer to evolve than animals. Most of the time the earth has been populated with just bacteria and alage! So, they had a much longer time to evolve those complex proteins that they use for locomotion. It may simply seem impossible because youre looking at an almost incomprehensible amount of time between virus -----> bacteria/alage

A creator god could have just helped guide evolution, without taking a totally direct approach to influencing it.

[MoonStarer420]

Darwin himself made the point that Evolution works until you get down to the cellular level.

Just keep in mind that Darwinâ??s original theory is not the same as the current theory of Evolution. He had no knowledge of DNA, and only included natural selection as the only mechanism for driving evolution. He didn't know about mutations or even why species had variation. With organic molecules so common in our Universe I think it seems quite possible for life to arise, under the right conditions, from a combination of chemistry and physics.

"The simple and single celled organisms took a lot longer to evolve than animals"
Yea really, a few billion vs. half a billion or so. (Somthing like this)

[Highness]

I prefer the idea of "adaptation" to evolution. There's tons of material out there for the pros & cons of both though. I believe in creation, but not so much a "poof" type of thing. While the Bible says that everything was created in 6 days, it also says that to God, a second is like a thousand years...I guess one would need to be a scholar in Arabic to determine the root meanings of the words to decipher what time frame it means exactly.

Also, something I've always wondered...what did a platypus evolve from? A duck and a beaver? I wonder which was the "mom" & which was the "dad".

And something else...if we're evolved from Apes, how come there aren't dog-people, cat-people, dolphin-people, etc? I know apes are smart & all, but I've seen studies where parrots out-performed chimps, so I don't know if it has much to do with the brain size.

yeah man but think about this witch came first the chicken or the egg, if it takes the chicken to have the egg then how was the first egg made or chicken if it wasnt some form of a magicall POOF. And why does everything that has a name so appropriately fit it like who in the hell came up with all the names for everything and why is it that no other name for that thing fits , its insane when you really start thinking about it. And just the fact that the entire world in its own language knows everything pretty much by the same description, go figure how we all know that its crazy.

[Highness]

ooppps forgot to give my vote on the question I believe it was both, of course stripped of all the labeling.... I feel we evolved scientifically so far till we needed this other element called spirit or metapyhsical, then we assimilated that into ourselves to evolve witch is how evolution works, its when the agreesor finally is absorbed by the absorber and the 2 things assimilate and become something new.

[willystylle]

We all come from animals and most of the time we act like animals.

God is an imaginary friend for grown-ups

[F L E S H]

We all come from animals and most of the time we act like animals.

God is an imaginary friend for grown-ups

Amen...

[paparose]

if we evolved from monkeys how come there are still monkeys on trees? how come we dont see them becoming human? Pigs and humans heart are almost identical, does it make us evolved from pigs because we have similar hearts? we did not evolve, we adopted the environment as the animals did, the stronger survived others did not.
Darwins biggets mistake is calling his theory wrong, he should said "Adoptation" not "Evolution"
Many of darwins theory were proved otherwise in our time. It is absurd to discuss this topic.
God created us, but the environment kept changing so did we and the animals.

[paparose]

We all come from animals and most of the time we act like animals.

God is an imaginary friend for grown-ups

no we dont act like animals, we are worst then them. Animals dont kill for fun we do.
Dont count me in I did not come from animals

[mrdevious]

if we evolved from monkeys how come there are still monkeys on trees?

This has already been answered countless times all over these forums. We didn't come from monkeys, monkey's share a common ancestor, along with 98.5% of our genetic code.

Pigs and humans heart are almost identical, does it make us evolved from pigs because we have similar hearts? we did not evolve, we adopted the environment as the animals did, the stronger survived others did not.
Darwins biggets mistake is calling his theory wrong, he should said "Adoptation" not "Evolution"

"Adaptation" is the word you're looking for.

Many of darwins theory were proved otherwise in our time. It is absurd to discuss this topic.

Darwin isn't the soul developer of evolution. And just because you declare an opinion absurd doesn't prove it so and end the discussion. If you want absurd, try defending creation, considering every argument I've ever heard for it has utterly flawed logic.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

personally, i believe humans are the result of combinations of animals... seeing as we share a lot of the characteristics of many animals, i would assume that there were more factors influencing the developement of the human evolution thatn just monkies and apes.

not entirely sure how to explain it... and i dont really see how it is logical, considering pigs dont mate with iguanas who dont mate with gorillas...

but what if there is more to evolution than just the genetics? perhaps the blood of another animal could have preverse enough effects to affect the children that animal bears? i mean... wolves eat deer, what if the blood of the deer being ingested by the wolf can affect the wolf's children over mellenia to be born with antlers? well not nessacarily WITH them, but with the capacity for them to develope (jackalope anyone?).


overall, i still say evolution is like AI for god... a sort of way of keeping us in check or some such... hey, im not awake yet... i shouldnt be thinking about this stuff.