Quote Originally Posted by mrdevious
and vice versa. but thus far every argument from creationsists/intelligent design people I've ever heard entirely falls flat, usually something around the lines of "you can't disprove it, so that proves it".
That's where I disagree. Evolution is based on very non-permanent scientific data. Creationist Scientists have managed to keep a very consistant answer.

The thing that most people seem to forget is that one's faith in Evolution is just as much "based on the facts" as one's faith in God. Evolution has by no means been proven. That is fately misunderstood by those who believe in it and yet are not scientists themselves (aka normal people who believe in evolution based on what scientists TELL them).

I as a christian believe what I believe based on what I've seen (and felt). NOT because I'm weak and need to believe in God (that idea is a contradiction anyway because it requires much strength and dedication to do God's work). People often think christians are the ones in the dark who just don't see the obvious, but in truth it's the same for atheists. You're asked to pick a standpoint based on what you already know about life/the world/logic/etc, and to be honest, there is a solid standpoint from a christian point of view. We KNOW what we believe, but atheism gives a shakey ground at best that is ALWAYS changing.

The funny thing is that the bible claims to be an historical account of what actually happened. Go read something in the bible, find the name of a place or city or person, and then go look it up and find out that it actually exists/existed...