Evolution or God????. . . .

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

no no, it CAN bother me, it's like a post-black hole! it's absorbing all the decent posts on an indecent topic! i must put an end to this trecherous thread!


lol ok, so anyways, where are we?

everything is in a state of evolution, as while humans struggle to survive (albiet relying on machines) we slowly reverse our evolution. spiritual evolution, physical evolution, and mental evolution.

your thoughts have evolved since you were born, and continue to evolve, revolving around the rest of the world which you experiance.
your bodies dont really evolve anymore, and at a bare minimum; exerscise. and we're not getting enough, because we rely on machines to survive. we let SOMETHING else do the heavy lifting, and we just simply exist to make IT better, and OURSELVES worse.
with the constant failure to fufill our physical lives, we are constantly being reborn, destined to repeat this drag existance untill we finally learn our lessons, so we can advance, spiritually.

most of us dont seem to be capable of spiritual evolution anymore, and i dont doubt that this wont be my last time here on earth


but things ARE changing, with the help of the internet, many people are becoming more aware of the other sides of life they have been indavertly ignorant to all their lives.

many people are getting their wake up calls, and making an attempt to help, but due to the conditioned ignorance, thanks to your oh so protective government

they shiled us from a lot, and are ignorant, themselves, to a lot more, else they would not feel the need to dumb us down.

there is a lot that is blocking our mental and spiritual evolution, and our own lazyness is hindering our physical evolution.


evolution is a painful existance, no pain no gain.

oh yeah, and vannity is pretty anti-evolution as well, just thought i'd throw that in there.

[beachguy in thongs]

I know, everytime someone posts, it goes bold, again.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

bold?

[Pyramidsonmars]

I dont' see how you claim that both evolution and creationism are both based on presupposition. evolution is a science that grew and continues to grow and change based on new findings and evidence. the world is not this simple place where you choose your side and base your theory off it, real science is objectively analysing real evidence to find out as much as you can. all the bible is is a book of claims. there's no evidence or sceintific theory behind it's creation, it was created so as to spread the message that god has all your answers.

besides, the whole water pressure making dinosaur bones look old is just rediculous. besides the fact that there's no explanation as to where all the water came from and went, palaentologists didn't look at dinosaur bones and say "hey, you know that bone looks like it's..... let say 100 million years old". water pressure wouldn't change radioactive decay, wouldn't affect bone decay in the same way, and it doesn't account for there being varations in bone ages by as much as 200 million years and maybe more (speaking strictly of dinosaurs).

what it all comes down to is the bible doesn't actaully have any evidence other than trying find holes in other people's evidence.

You seem to know a lot about this field of science? Perhaps you've studied it? Anyway, the bible clearly says that rain came down, but the "waters of the deep burst forth". It's one thing when writting a fictional story involving acts by super natural forces to simply just "provide enough water", but the bible itself is clearly somewhat scientific in it's story of the flood (at least it contains more scientific knowledge than any other doctrine, not to mention much of that science was not known at that time) The christian bible explains this very 'un-natural' (in the sense that it only happened once) world wide flood in the most sensible, realistic way that such a thing could happen. God never breaks any rule of nature, but rather bends them.The idea that water also came up from the ground and then very clearly decended back into the earth makes that question "where did all the water come from" a bit easier to see.

You know, it's a completely subjective thing, and that's why it's hard to argue about it. Person "A" sits in a corner and says I put my faith in what these evolutionists say because their reasons make sense...person "B" sits in the other corner saying I put my faith in what this bible says because it seems to speak to the world in a way no other book does. I'm sure both our opinions seem very odd to the other, but it's important to get across that I used to be atheist (and buddhist but that's aside from the point) and held evolutionairy views, though even at that time I had much skepticizm about them. I at least know where they come from, and the mindset that needs them, but there came a point in my life where most of my questions that went unanswered were answered when I finally gave up and asked God.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

You seem to know a lot about this field of science? Perhaps you've studied it? Anyway, the bible clearly says that rain came down, but the "waters of the deep burst forth". It's one thing when writting a fictional story involving acts by super natural forces to simply just "provide enough water", but the bible itself is clearly somewhat scientific in it's story of the flood (at least it contains more scientific knowledge than any other doctrine, not to mention much of that science was not known at that time) The idea that water also came up from the ground and then very clearly decended back into the earth makes that question "where did all the water come from" a bit easier to see.

You know, it's a completely subjective thing, and that's why it's hard to argue about it. Person "A" sits in a corner and says I put my faith in what these evolutionists say because their reasons make sense...person "B" sits in the other corner saying I put my faith in what this bible says because it seems to speak to the world in a way no other book does. I'm sure both our opinions seem very odd to the other, but it's important to get across that I used to be atheist (and buddhist but that's aside from the point) and held evolutionairy views, though even at that time I had much skepticizm about them. I at least know where they come from, and the mindset that needs them, but there came a point in my life where most of my questions that went unanswered were answered when I finally gave up and asked God.

did you give up and ask god or did you look to the bible.


the biggest, and most flawed mistake in "looking to god" is that people look to RELIGION(s), and never once speak to god or listen to what GOD has to say.

[moeburn]

I am God.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

right, and im your son.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

god got all constipated, and eventually he was so backed up, that everything combined was collecting in his ass.

when he finally passed that disgusting mass, the result was Earth.

god felt so sorry for the inhabitants, to be a mutilated hybrid of reality, and the worst part is we clogged his toilet, so now we're dead center between heven and hell, hence the whole yin yang thing, the existance of both good and evil.

[F L E S H]

To Flesh:

Tu la rubella regazza con cu shue.

Hhmm?

[Faultydesign]

Charles Darwin was definately a racist.

I mean, Look at the title of his book
The Origin of Species
OR
The Preservation of the favored races.