Evolution or God????. . . .

[skarz]

I think i know what you're saying... but isn't "God" the creator of everything?I understand that when Jesus came to earth or w/e that was god in a physical living form... but since God created everything doesn't that mean he created weed, not Jesus? (Even though they are the same being, God came before Jesus)

[msactech1]

Yes, I believe God created everything. It was also the same God that became a little human baby, destined to die for mankind. He wasn't given the name Jesus until He was a child. So, before He came to earth and lived a life as Jesus, He created the earth and weed. At the time He created everything, He had not been born a man or recieved the name Jesus.
I believe that when I die, God will give me a new name. Even though I don't know what it is, it is still 'my name'. The same as Him. He wasn't named Jesus, yet, but He was destined to recieve that name. So, Jesus created everything before He bacame a man or recieved the name Jesus.
Now He has already come to earth and left. The only way a man can know God is by knowing Jesus. By becoming man, we are better able to understand God's personality. A man just isn't able to comprehend God unless He stoops down to man's level. Man met God face to face, and wrote about it so we would know what God was like. Because I am human, it helps me to look at God through Jesus so I can understand His personality, a little better.

[sackojaweedya]

You doubters are forgetting the root of Christianity...FAITH. Blessed are those who believe without seeing. Turn away from your scientific approach for just a moment and pray. Reach out to God. Faith is not something that is tangible for you to pick up and examine under a microscope. God is within you whether you think so or not. Its now up to you to find him and establish a relationship.

[mrdevious]

You doubters are forgetting the root of Christianity...FAITH. Blessed are those who believe without seeing. Turn away from your scientific approach for just a moment and pray. Reach out to God. Faith is not something that is tangible for you to pick up and examine under a microscope. God is within you whether you think so or not. Its now up to you to find him and establish a relationship.

Faith is a lot of atheist's biggest problem. What better system to keep people convinced than one where you believe based on nothing? Don't believe because we have evidence, don't believe because it's logical, just believe because you should. When a belief is based on accepting something for no other reason than belief in itself, I'm going to start asking questions. "faith" is nothing more than a convenient system to make sure nobody asks questions when a claim can't hold up against scrutiny.

[skarz]

The doubters don't have to turn to god though.... there are hundreds of religions out there, christianity definetely isn't for everyone. You don't even have to follow organized religion... you can be completely spiritual without ever following a religion.

[harmonicminor]

How do you know life is nothing more then an illusion?

you got it there
In the Book "The Holographic Reality" it tells about a lot of different scientific observations that fall into the unexplainable catagory. All of these facts do point toward the holographic reality theory being true. It tells about Einstiens thoeries, Steven Hawkings, Quantum physics, different psyciatric examinations, hospital and the paranormal ect.
For example there was people with split personalities that had one personality that was perfectly healthy untill the other personality took over that had cancer really bad. The one with the cancer had huge tumors all over the body and when the healthy personality took over the tumors just vanished instantly. This happened all the time to this person and was well documented.
People on acid under experiments have demonstrated telepathy.
Scientists have found that atoms, no matter how far can communicate with another instantly.
They have just found out how to reverse light.
Science still learns new things all the time
they still havent proven how thought is formed

If you have ever had a breakthrough with Salvia or ahyuasca you will know there are other dimensions on top of ours with other beings that inhabit them.

[mrdevious]

you got it there
In the Book "The Holographic Reality" it tells about a lot of different scientific observations that fall into the unexplainable catagory. All of these facts do point toward the holographic reality theory being true. It tells about Einstiens thoeries, Steven Hawkings, Quantum physics, different psyciatric examinations, hospital and the paranormal ect.
For example there was people with split personalities that had one personality that was perfectly healthy untill the other personality took over that had cancer really bad. The one with the cancer had huge tumors all over the body and when the healthy personality took over the tumors just vanished instantly. This happened all the time to this person and was well documented.
People on acid under experiments have demonstrated telepathy.
Scientists have found that atoms, no matter how far can communicate with another instantly.
They have just found out how to reverse light.
Science still learns new things all the time
they still havent proven how thought is formed

If you have ever had a breakthrough with Salvia or ahyuasca you will know there are other dimensions on top of ours with other beings that inhabit them.

Funny you should say that. Last time I did salvia I felt like there were these streams of consciousness pulling me different ways, and every stream was its own conscious entity. I remember when one suddenly losened its grip and the other started taking me with it, and I could recognize each being without giving them a name or title, and at the time I understood so clearly that it was so interesting that so-and-so had released me to other so-and-so. I understood the significance, but that part is unfortunately gone now. I don't know what to make of it.

[Ganjasaurusrex]

Evolution or God?

What if we evolved by Gods will?

[harmonicminor]

here we go
this will show you guys what happened

http://www.wimp.com/bigbang/

[skarz]

I don't think anyone is right.... or that anyone is wrong for that matter. We can all speculate and voice our beliefs, but deep down, we don't know if we're right. Not to offend any religious folk here, but you can not prove god, beyond belief, and beliefs can't be proven it's just something you have to put your heart into and go with. Same with evolution, big bang, etc... it can't be scientifically proven yet, no one really KNOWS what's happening it's all speculation.

I do have one question for those who know religion though because I'm still trying to learn more about it.

- How do you explain dinosaur fossils millions of years old
- If Adam and Eve were the 2 ppl who started reproducing, how does that explain so many different ethnic groups.