Evolution or God????. . . .

[Euphoric]

It's too hard to fathom our God creating Evolution. I mean, sure this can be this "Divine Plan" everyone is talking about but I think that would be just plain blasphemous. I think Evolution is a fraud created by humans and these humans have a one way ticket straight to Hell!1

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If God can create anything why would he create evolution? Why not just get to the point?

[CocaCola]

Again, another flaw in God's existence. If he could create anything then why even create anything.

I already posted this before... God is everything so why would he create anything, if he is everywhere already? He is omnipotent and omnipresent and omniscient, so WHY did you do shit?

Answer me this and I'll believe God.

BTW: Euphoric, I was saying that would be a more plausible event then just God creating everything one thing at a time.

[Pyramidsonmars]

Again, another flaw in God's existence. If he could create anything then why even create anything.

I already posted this before... God is everything so why would he create anything, if he is everywhere already? He is omnipotent and omnipresent and omniscient, so WHY did you do shit?

Answer me this and I'll believe God.

BTW: Euphoric, I was saying that would be a more plausible event then just God creating everything one thing at a time.

A question that YOU can't answer does not make anything flawed. Why would God create anything if he is everything? Think of it this way: Is an architect actually THE house he designed? No, it does not work like that. God is not sin, nor is he ever in the presence of sin. A hateful remark to God, once it is said, is no longer said to God because it is sinful; he is no longer there, he is above it, it doesn't reach him. So needless to say God is not actually everything in the sense that there are things among the "created" that have turned away from him. Why God created love for other beings to experience other than him is the question. Essentially I'm implying that God has chosen to create other "beings" to experience "good" (for whatever you take that to be), and therefore had to "set the stage", by creating the material universe as we know it. For all we know, God could have made it ANY way he wanted, and we would know it as 'normal'.

SO in the end I'm saying God is everything because it had to come from SOMEWHERE, but he is actually NOT his creation: simply where it came from.

The term 'being' is another thing I want to "trip" about. God says we're created in the image of him. God also is the only one who identifies himself as "I am" other than Jesus, therefore we are in the likeness of God, I would say, because we, unlike animals, are "beings", who account for themselves as "I", and therefore have a sense of the Good and Bad that exist. For some reason we are a fallen species, and are connected to the Bad, addicted to it if you will, and are therefore no longer in the "arms of God"

[Pyramidsonmars]

Would a creationist like to explain dinosaur fossils, please?

I'd really like to see someone do a test on the actual results of putting fossils and rock under THAT much pressure of water on the earth for that long.

[CocaCola]

A question that YOU can't answer does not make anything flawed. Why would God create anything if he is everything? Think of it this way: Is an architect actually THE house he designed? No, it does not work like that. God is not sin, nor is he ever in the presence of sin. A hateful remark to God, once it is said, is no longer said to God because it is sinful; he is no longer there, he is above it, it doesn't reach him. So needless to say God is not actually everything in the sense that there are things among the "created" that have turned away from him. Why God created love for other beings to experience other than him is the question. Essentially I'm implying that God has chosen to create other "beings" to experience "good" (for whatever you take that to be), and therefore had to "set the stage", by creating the material universe as we know it. For all we know, God could have made it ANY way he wanted, and we would know it as 'normal'.

You're good, man. You are good. Ok, so far we know that God created this material plane so that God could create other beings to place there and experience love... and according to you, may have possibly created other planes. However, that still doesn't answer my question... WHY?

WHY did God create this plane and us to experience love and life? WHY?

There is no reason is what you're saying, right? He just wants to spread the love... that crazy God.

Ok, so explain this... WHY?

Why not? Maybe that's it? Maybe God was just tired of being the only one supreme being, so he made us to ehh... I don't know... toy with? There couldn't be any other reason, I guess... otherwise there couldn't be a one supreme being, becasue he'd have no reason to be.

If you were to just say what you said in the second paragraph, I would have said I agree but is God really a being or jsut a start of something, which is what I believe.

[CocaCola]

I'm just looking for a simple answer here... none of this sin and other planes. Why did God create anything? If he is the all-knowing all-seeing all-being supreme master of everything... why did he create the universe? He wouldn't have to create anything because everything is already there, becasue he is everything. So WHY? Wouldn't it be more plausible to suggest that the universe WAS already and that God had nothing to do with it? Give me a simple answer here, man... shut me down!1 :thumbsup:

[CocaCola]

I mean, if God does exist on a higher dimension (which I am not denying), then his excuse for creating us or anything would be beyond our concept of reasoning, as we can't just create planes of existence. So why we are here can't really be answered by anyone other then God. So fuck why were we put here... because I know it's just becasue we are to live and love. To have a higher reason is to be beyond human... But is God a being or a concept of existence on higher planes? That is the question... becasue appearntly, billions of people think that their God (whatever their religion) is an actual being.

[beachguy in thongs]

Say that God created Life. It's our own fabrication that it was in his own image. So, since the beginning of time, all the various species were from that original creation. That would mean he would've been the one to fuse Carbon and Hydrogen. Accident or divine intervention, something created those elements, but as for now, they are responsible.

[Sir Les]

I'm just looking for a simple answer here... none of this sin and other planes. Why did God create anything? If he is the all-knowing all-seeing all-being supreme master of everything... why did he create the universe? He wouldn't have to create anything because everything is already there, becasue he is everything. So WHY? Wouldn't it be more plausible to suggest that the universe WAS already and that God had nothing to do with it? Give me a simple answer here, man... shut me down!1 :thumbsup:

To filter out sin from himself!...see the tree at the center of the garden?...it is the filter for God to be sinless...if we as humans remove this tree, God becomes angry...and he sent Adam and Eve into Death to restore what they have made missing in Eden...since sin brought Adam and Eve out of Eden...a sinless Adam and Eve should return it...Thus forgiveness!

[CocaCola]

My brain is actually about to pop.

It's all bullshit. It's all in our fucking imagination. I'm sick of it even thinking about that asshole. What a perfect plan, God. Loops and twists and turns and drops and holes and missing tracks, yeah, the great divine plan. What a ride that is...