I mainly use a regular filterless zig zag roller the ones where ya stick the paper in....but lately Ive been rolling joints the amsterdam way...about a cig worth of tabbaco and a normal joints worth of weed, and 3 papers, and a torn piece of thin cardboard rolled in the size and shape of a cig filter, when ya roll it it should go into a conelike shape start out the thickness of a cig and end up about 1 and a half inches in diamter and its about 5-6 inches long, yall might think that the tabbaco is stupid but infact it gets ya higher cause the tabbaco scratches your lungs and then allows the thc to penetrate properly....not recommended for people afraid of respiratory illnesses, lol. I learned this little trick on one of my trips in europe, the weed there is magnificent xD