these are clones about a week in i use 20-20-20 in veg and 10-54-10 in bud room with a tea spoon of epsom salt per 5 gallon of water the pump goes under the water and is magnet drive so they rarly fuk up pushes 65 gpmthey run 24/7 clones are in rockwool so you never worry about over watering because rock wool is impossible to over water system works pretty well veg room has a 400 mh and the bud room has 1000 mh and 1000 hps