Actually Zandor you got my point exactly. Thanks. And yea I was talking about hydro. But how big would I need the pot to be if I grew LowRyders which aren't supposed to grow much taller than about 12 inches. Plus, I dunno but, I like the idea of having tiny pots with tiny plants. Makes it almost possible for a windowcil type plant But other than that I think it helped out real nicely. It's great to be back and thanks for responding so quickly, like usual.