Quote Originally Posted by Breukelen advocaat
Sadomasochism is defined as, "the perversion of deriving pleasure, especially sexual pleasure, from simultaneous sadism and masochism."

Sadism is the Master or Dom of the couple. This part of the equation receives pleasure from inflicting discipline or pain to the "submissive" partner.

Masochism is the sub or slave that WILLINGLY submits their minds and bodies to the Dom/Master.

I would say that it applies to the 4 percent of priests that are child molesters, the brothers and nuns that use paddles, rulers, and other instruments (not to mention their hands) to punish children, the psychological abuse, the hatred of human sexuality, the attempt to deny the people of the world access to birth control and condoms, and many other deviant ways of acting. The Catholic Church is not alone in this, unfortunatly it is proably just as bad or worse in other denominatins of christianity and other religions.

This is where I question this. In a true Sadomasochistic relationship, there MUST be mutual consent. A child that was molested gave no consent or did the students being whooped on by the nuns. These people are just perverts and authoritarians. A true Sadist would never purposely damage his sub/slave.

This is not the garden-variety, harmless "S&M" that involves "sex toys" and role-playing fantasies that has become popular thanks to TV shows like Sex in the City, movies, the internet, books, magazines, sex stores, etc. People that engage in these types of behavior are NOT doing it with unwilling partners - to do so without consent would be a crime. This is a form of sexual foreplay for adults.

And this is the true definition of Sadomasochism. Two or more consenting adults living a life style which is out of the norm.

Abuse of children and adults by religious (or other) degenerates is wrong ?? and you can just look at the history of the Inquisitions to see what they would do if they still had the power.
Here are some of the instruments Colonel Robert Ingersoll (??The Great Agnostic?) described, which were on display in New York City back in the 19th century:
These are forms of torture being put upon a NON-consenting individual. Thats my point, masochists freely give their minds and bodies to the Master or Dom knowing that they are safe. They also use safe words during scenes so that in case they feel uncomfortable the actions would stop immediately.

In general, the S&M community are the ones that are proud of their bruises, scars, etc....that they received during the scenes. There is also a milder form of this called BDSM that will use like scenes but not leave marks. The general attitude of this life style is that a person is restrained and beat, whipped, etc...violently from the start...NOT TRUE! Actually it's a gradual increase which starts very mild to the point where the Dom see's that the sub has had enough...for S&M's it could be marks while for BDSM people it's more of a fog state of mind that the Dom watches for.

Sorry, I lived the BDSM for about 10 years which is the reason I found this interesting. Fact is, the pervert priests, knuckle busting nuns, torture rooms of the crusades was not a true form of Sadomasocism. Unfortunately, there are "Self-Trained Doms" out there with this belief and when the Masocist gives her/him to this person they find a freak instead of a Dom.

This was REALLY the wrong thread for this!!! So sorry to all!! :thumbsup:
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