When will people learn there's no god?

[beachguy in thongs]

By the way, God does not have absolute power over us.

[Oneironaut]

By the way, God does not have absolute power over us.

Well, it depends on how you define "God". Everybody seems to have their own definition, but the one I'm using refers to an omniscient, omnipotent creator of the universe. By definition, such a being must have absolute control over everything. Every event happens only because this entity created a universe in which he knew perfectly well that the objects involved would configure themselves in such a manner to produce the event. If he wanted a different universe, he would have set up the initial conditions differently, or would intervene so as to prevent the event from happening. In any case, if we're going to assume the existence of an omniscient, omnipotent creator of the universe called God, everything exists only because God created it and everything happens only because God made it happen and lets it happen.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

when? when wwill people learn?


when God comes down on a space ship, and is a 5000 foot tall human that radiates light, says in a booming voice, "gotcha!" and explains he's actually an "alien" as we call them. lol

[Mellow Man]

I understand everyone is entitled to their own belief. I just don't understand how people can go around publicly admitting to their own stupidity.

"Hey Matt, did Santa stop by lastnight?"

That person would be considered a looney tune if he/she was serious.

So why then when we know that there is no such thing as god, and that scientifically it's not possible. (Yeah, god made everyone and everything including the animals, dirt and trees. It has nothing to do with planet formation, and/or evolution - Well what made god?)

I was just reading a story about a pregnant skydiver and was pissed off. Not only was the dumb woman stupid enough to land face first without her parachute working (ROFLMAO!!) but after finding out that she was pregnant, her response was:

"Just this last week we went and saw the doctor and we've got arms, we've got legs. We've got a full face. The baby is moving around just fine. The heart rate looks good. So not only did God save me but he spared this baby."

You can read the full thing on http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051213/...diver_s_plunge if ya want. But come on people. No one has ever met god (because he's non existent duh), it's ok when you die because god's taking care of you? (omfg) and these crazy people waste so much time on religion.

My family made me get my 1st communion and confirmation when I was a kid. I think it's bullshit because I wasn't old enough to make these decisions. Why does it anger me that people waste their own time? Because I always have to hear about it. We need more people talking about how god is fake, maybe then people won't push their religious garbage on people like me if they knew how stupid they sound.

My cousin about a month ago was telling me that there is a god of some sort because when she decided to come down with her mom to visit my grandfather (because he has cancer and isn't doing good) something made her come. Something told her to come. Ok, so if it wasn't the fact that we found out 2 weeks ago that he has cancer and isn't doing good, then what was it? Well, it couldn't have been the obvious, lets go with God.

Sometimes stupid people (its ok if you think I'm stupid, I don't care ) get on my nerves because I can't understand how stupid they are, and why they are so accepting of a fictional character made up long long ago. You'd think with SCIENCE people would say, "Oh so that's why."

Anyone disagree with me here on this one? Are ya gonna tell me that god is special and great and if it wasn't for him I wouldn't be here? How about if it wasn't for my mother and father having sex, and of course their mothers and fathers, etc. Oh wait, god is my real maker... Fucking morons.

Man kind can't answer the less of a seriouse question,for example man can't even tell us anything outside our own solar system but yet figured everything out???? if you can't answer the smaller questions what makes man a authority on the question of God???....................

[beachguy in thongs]

Well, it depends on how you define "God". omniscient, omnipotent creator of the universe. must have absolute control over everything. he knew perfectly well that the objects involved would configure themselves in such a manner to produce the event. to assume the existence of an omniscient, omnipotent creator of the universe called God, everything exists only because God created it and everything happens only because God made it happen and lets it happen.

God doesn't have Absolute Power because He gave Us freewill. That's why you can smoke weed in Ghana but not the U.S.

I believe that God would have to equal Life. How can a non-life form create life? We may be the Universe in God's eyes, while there is another universe in his testicals, there's no proof against it. We may be a molecule of one-single living organism in a greater universe. Whatever way it may be, the only way God knew Life existed was because he once was alive.

I'm lost and need to rejuvenate.

edit: By the way, I like what you said, bringing the amazement of the Cosmos into this.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

god is the first ego to enter the mind, and god took form of the first thoughts god percieved; all; omnipotence, omniscence, existance (omnipresence, i think).

and god began recruiting other egos from the nothing (or source, or whatever you want to call it) for other elements of reality; chaos, fire, psi...

i like what mellow man said, and it's logical.


we are beings of ignorance and are forced to study the universe and see it from inside to get an understanding of it.

then we challenge the existance of something greater than our understanding of what we have percieved, even light of our own ignorance, we will close up our childhood open mindedness, in light of science and skeptical logic.


open minded logic will prevail over skeptical logic, because openmindedness is posed no limits.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

oh, and in arguement in favor of science and religion, using evolution as the link:

it is possible that the evolution of the earth was in transition of metaphysical to physical existance, and that all forms of evolution coexist, just on different demensions.

[CocaCola]

Howdy Jim,

That's a big 10-4 ! One may as well say that there's no such thing as atoms,molecules and germs,just because we can't see em,don't mean that they ain't there.

Have a good one !

This is the problem... you can't see God... but you CAN see atoms... um... hello?

And it's not being skeptical, it's just being realistic... I can say that I believe in fucking gemlins but that doesn't make me fucking open-minded, it would make me a stupid fucking moron.

[420kidder]

This is the problem... you can't see God... but you CAN see atoms... um... hello?

And it's not being skeptical, it's just being realistic... I can say that I believe in fucking gemlins but that doesn't make me fucking open-minded, it would make me a stupid fucking moron.

Exactly, exactly!! :thumbsup:

[CocaCola]

Watch, they are gonna come back with more stupid crap about how I can't open my mind to an invisable being who lives in a magical kingdom in the sky... lol