I`m no goth either nor will I ever be , an personally I can`t fuckin stand them, but thats my impression of them as a group , not as individuals . I just find that they`re mostly middle class sad fuckers with mothers an fathers that are too busy to notice that they`re children are startin to look like Bela Legosi an cryin out for attention . But at the end of the day the`yre just kids and I`m usually too stoned to give a fuck, as long as none of mine dont feel they need to go all Bela Bela on me. and besides wearing what they want and not giving a fuck is hardly a new concept, can`t really be bothered with this "we want to be different" pish. IS THAT RIGHT??? well buy a yellow t-shirt and don`t dye your hair pink! Adult goths are different though, its a lifestyle choice , I know punks that still dress like the way they did 30 years ago, same thing, lifestyle choice, but the kids??? full of pish and i feel sorry for them