Atheism

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

if you do not believe, if you have no faith, then why do you believe that there is no god, and have faith that god does not exist?

[Oneironaut]

Why do you believe that round squares do not exist? The popular idea of God contains self-contradictory traits, things which could not exist in the same being. For example, omnipotence and omniscience. How could a being be all-knowing and at the same time all-powerful? If God knows everything he's going to do in the future, he does not have the power to change his mind. If he has the power to change his mind, he does not know what he is going to do in the future.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

that is circular logic isnt it?


omni means all, god CAN see his future actions, and god CAN change his mind.

knowing the future puts us at risk for CHANGING the future, so every time god changed his mind, he'd see a new future. and would continually change his mind untill he saw the future he wanted.

[Oneironaut]

But doesn't he already know ahead of time which future it is that he's going to choose?

[Oneironaut]

But doesn't he already know ahead of time which future it is that he's going to choose? Didn't he see, billions of years ago, all these things which in the present lead him to change his mind? Didn't he also know at that time what the best solution would be, that is, what future he would choose?

[stothelutz]

^ True that. I think god is your consciousness and the devil is death.

[sugarmagnolia]

stoner shadow wolf- atheism is unquestionably a lack of a religion. It is not a religion because there are no set rules for being what one would call an atheist. It is merely not placing judgement on what can not be proven. It is perfectly logical, it is like not placing a blind bet in a poker game because you are not sure whether you will win or not.

People should really watch who they call close-minded to prevent from looking like a retard. The narrow-mindedness of a person does not depend on their set of beliefs or lack of beliefs, it depends on their character.

[Oneironaut]

True. If atheism is a religion, then bald is a hair color.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

But doesn't he already know ahead of time which future it is that he's going to choose? Didn't he see, billions of years ago, all these things which in the present lead him to change his mind? Didn't he also know at that time what the best solution would be, that is, what future he would choose?

yes, omniscence is instant, in an instant, 400 billion mind changes can occour, and 400 billion futures can be percieved.


however, you have to actively USE an ability, they arent passive, has to TRY to use his omniscence to see.

so it is understandable that there could be a lapse in omniscence, just as there may be lapses in omnipotence.


humans were created during a lapse in omniscence.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

stoner shadow wolf- atheism is unquestionably a lack of a religion. It is not a religion because there are no set rules for being what one would call an atheist. It is merely not placing judgement on what can not be proven. It is perfectly logical, it is like not placing a blind bet in a poker game because you are not sure whether you will win or not.

People should really watch who they call close-minded to prevent from looking like a retard. The narrow-mindedness of a person does not depend on their set of beliefs or lack of beliefs, it depends on their character.

hmm, aiighty, atheism isnt a religion, but it operates very much like religion, just with completely opposite beliefs, belief that there is no god, belief that there is no afterlife.


it still comes down to beliefs. yes, granted, atheism revolves around proof, but that is putting faith into what you can immediately see, hear, smell, touch, and taste. it is too confined not to be religious. your god is science. though you would never treat it in the same manner as christians...

oh wait!