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	12-12-2005, 02:40 AM #11 Senior Member Senior Member
 AtheismYou present yourself like a jackass. why are you offering guidance to only atheists and singling them out. Why not tell everyone to look at every religion possible. I get the impression that you believe athesim to be close-minded. but the way I see it it is just as close-minded as taking another stance that happens to be an organized religion. Originally Posted by Toothpick Originally Posted by Toothpick
 
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	12-12-2005, 03:45 AM #12 OPSenior Member OPSenior Member
 Atheism^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^ 
 if you really paid attencion to what i said then you wouldof seen that I was moreover using atheism as a example as it seems to be a very close minded type of religion even though technically it isnt a religion. What you just said shows alot of bad towards atheism and it seems to me sugar that you hold atheism close to you as if it was a religion.
 
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	12-12-2005, 03:47 AM #13 Senior Member Senior Member
 Atheismhey, who was it who had a quote of me saying something about a burn?   
 
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	12-12-2005, 11:39 AM #14 Senior Member Senior Member
 AtheismDefine: Religion Originally Posted by Toothpick Originally Posted by Toothpick
 
 # a strong belief in a supernatural power or powers that control human destiny
 # an institution to express belief in a divine power
 
 
 
 If an atheist denies the supernatural, how is it anything like religion? I'd say its more of a belief. You can't compare religion and atheism simply because they are both beliefs. Lots of things are beliefs and you can't just lump shit up like that. Doesn't work.
 
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	12-12-2005, 03:34 PM #15 Senior Member Senior Member
 AtheismHow is atheism close-minded? Atheists are some of the most open-minded people I know. Most atheists were not raised atheists so they had to have an open mind to get to atheism in the first place. Almost every atheist I've ever met has been quite receptive to new ideas, but reluctant to accept them as true until shown sufficient evidence. How is it close-minded to demand evidence before you believe some new idea? It's not that we don't consider the possibility of a supernatural, it's just that we see a conspicuous lack of evidence for it. If the supernatural interacts with our physical universe, where's the evidence? If it doesn't, what's the point of religion since nobody can possibly come to know anything about it? Originally Posted by Toothpick Originally Posted by Toothpick
 
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	12-12-2005, 03:44 PM #16 Senior Member Senior Member
 AtheismAlso, note that if you're going to believe in anything you pretty much have to reject thousands of religions, past and present. The atheist just happens to reject one more religion than the believer. 
 
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	12-12-2005, 04:03 PM #17 Senior Member Senior Member
 Atheismatheism is lack of religion so its not a religion. Originally Posted by Toothpick Originally Posted by Toothpick
 
 i dont believe in fairy tales, theres no magical being from up in the clouds looking down on us, i have no soul and neither do you and if you seem to think you do please show me where its at and make a believer out of me. show me god and ill believe
 
 open your mind, think for your self dont let some book written by men thousands of years ago think for you.
 
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	12-12-2005, 04:38 PM #18 Senior Member Senior Member
 AtheismYou can't compare religious people to atheists, that is the entire basis of our objecti0ns, we're not like you. We don't believe, we don't have faith, because there's nothing to believe in but what's in front of us, and what's insinde of us; our potential. 
 
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	12-12-2005, 10:09 PM #19 Senior Member Senior Member
 Atheismreligion was fairly well defined. Originally Posted by ADaisyChain Originally Posted by ADaisyChain
 
 and athiesm is fairly well defined as a religion that is anti-religion.
 
 # a strong belief in the lack of any supernatural power, or powers that controll human destiny
 # a disorgonized institution that expresses it's strong belief that there is no divine power.
 
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	12-12-2005, 10:58 PM #20 Senior Member Senior Member
 AtheismI JUST said that atheism is not a "religion". Right there, just above your post... Originally Posted by Stoner Shadow Wolf Originally Posted by Stoner Shadow Wolf
 
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