Atheism

[Toothpick]

I noticed their are alot of atheists on cannabis.com and I was just wondering if you dont believe in any type of God then what do you believe in? evolution shouldn't be a option because it has more faults then any kind of religion. Besides evolution their isnt much if your a atheist that doesnt believe in evolution then you probably believe in nothing. Arguements against religion is usually answered with a arguement against atheism and vice versa. If you are to look at only atheism then you would never change because you would never hear otherwise as the same with other religions. So I must say before you decide on being a atheist look into every other possibility and you may find something else that is alot more understandable. Question your belief hardly ask impossible questions and if it comes out clean then their you have it a foolproof look at life that no one can prove wrong.
Im sure this thread will lead to alot of hate towards me but if you do as i have said then you will come out rewarded believe me.

Toothpick Reviewed by Toothpick on 12-11-2005. Atheism I noticed their are alot of atheists on cannabis.com and I was just wondering if you dont believe in any type of God then what do you believe in? evolution shouldn't be a option because it has more faults then any kind of religion. Besides evolution their isnt much if your a atheist that doesnt believe in evolution then you probably believe in nothing. Arguements against religion is usually answered with a arguement against atheism and vice versa. If you are to look at only atheism then you Rating: 5

[thcbongman]

I myself believe in a higher power, so I don't qualify as an atheist, but I understand their point of view.

I don't believe it's true that athiests can't change. As long as you are a decent human being and you help others, it doesn't matter what religion you are. We could only look at the suffering all humans go through and take it as facts of life. We all may have a different perception of what happens in the afterlife, but as long as you lived life to the fullest, you leave this world in peace.

[Toothpick]

thats a good way of looking at it but i noticed that most of the atheists hear seem to be really intolerant of other religions which if you ask me should change

[Oneironaut]

I noticed their are alot of atheists on cannabis.com and I was just wondering if you dont believe in any type of God then what do you believe in?

I believe in mankind.

So I must say before you decide on being a atheist look into every other possibility and you may find something else that is alot more understandable. Question your belief hardly ask impossible questions and if it comes out clean then their you have it a foolproof look at life that no one can prove wrong.

Have you done the same searching of beliefs? I, for one, have investigated all the major religions and found them all conspicuously lacking in evidence to back up their claims of the supernatural. And their gods have not delivered on their promises of peace; religious dogma has been nothing but a constant bloodbath from the beginning. If there is a loving God out there, it certainly isn't involving itself in our lives, so there's no point speculating about it and either way the result is the same: mankind is on its own and needs to come up with its own solutions to its own problems. Salvation will not come from the supernatural. Our worldly problems demand worldly solutions, and we can't waste our time worrying about extraordinary claims that don't have any evidence going for them, like leprechauns, unicorns, Santa Claus, souls, demons, gods, or prophets. That's what atheism is about.

[F L E S H]

thats a good way of looking at it but i noticed that most of the atheists hear seem to be really intolerant of other religions which if you ask me should change

Hmmm, you're new here aren't you?

You probably haven't come to the realization that you DON'T have to believe in anything. Like Oneironaut before me, I believe in mankind, in humanity, in our potential to surpass and transcend any petty squabbles. I believe in the Here and Now, I believe in Power, because it's something we can all attain, but most importantly I believe in Reason and Intellect and Knowledge and Resposibility. Those are my gods.

What I don't love is submission, ignorance, the will to nothingness which most religions (i.e. the big three monotheistic ones...) preach and force upon their congregations. For the past 2,000 years we are consistently being told by religious authorities that to have too much knowledge is bad for us, that scientists really shouldn't dig too deeply because they might find things that refute religious doctrines. The major religions want you stupid and docile, they want you to go where you're told to go, do what you're told to do, and think what you're told to think.

Like somebody else said, it strikes me how only atheists ever read the Bible the carefully, because chances are that if you do just that, the entire religious edifice will collapse under the weight of its own faulty logic. So let me ask you, in this day and age, don't we owe ourselves at least a little logic? Shouldn't we use our so-called god-given gifts of reason and logic to transcend, to go beyond religion?

A medieval German mystic, named Master Eckhart, once said, "I ask of God that he rid me of God." Today we can do just that.

[MudFu]

thats a good way of looking at it but i noticed that most of the atheists hear seem to be really intolerant of other religions which if you ask me should change

You know what, I agree. Intolerance will get you no where in this world. Weither you believe in God or not, if you are intolerant no one will care what you have to say. I already do not listen nor read any posts from certian perople because they show no signs of trying to understand. You can choose to not believe in God but calling down someone who does is just moronic. Same goes for people who call down others that do not believe. It is their belief and let them have it. Do not push your ideas on others.

[Klae]

I don't know what I believe in, I just know that it isn't organized religion. I see religion as an excuse for humans to have something to blame the unexplainable on. As for evolution, who knows. I just kinda go with the flow...ya hear? M'kay.

[F L E S H]

You know what, I agree. Intolerance will get you no where in this world. Weither you believe in God or not, if you are intolerant no one will care what you have to say. I already do not listen nor read any posts from certian perople because they show no signs of trying to understand. You can choose to not believe in God but calling down someone who does is just moronic. Same goes for people who call down others that do not believe. It is their belief and let them have it. Do not push your ideas on others.

Don't give me that crap. We are not pushing anything on you, we're just pointing out that religion does not make sense and the world would be better off without it. If that offends you, so be it, you gotta offend sometimes to snap people back into reality.

Speaking of intolerance, it's not atheists who have murdered people for the past 2,000 years for the simple reason that they believe in another religion...

[MudFu]

Don't give me that crap. We are not pushing anything on you, we're just pointing out that religion does not make sense and the world would be better off without it. If that offends you, so be it, you gotta offend sometimes to snap people back into reality.

Well someone took what I said to heart. I didn't come out and say names now did I. You just assum I was talking about you. Get over yourself. Their is noone in thie topic I was refering to. I was simply stating that intolerance gets you no where. And I did say "You can choose to not believe in God but calling down someone who does is just moronic. Same goes for people who call down others that do not believe." I know many murders have been caused by religion but you know what many murders were cuz that had nothing to do with religion. Your using religion as a simple way to blame all the bad in the world. Don't be so quick to snap at someone. I never said anything that should have offended you. And I pointed out I don't listen to who trys to offend me so I don't get offended.

[F L E S H]

Well someone took what I said to heart. I didn't come out and say names now did I. You just assum I was talking about you. Get over yourself. Their is noone in thie topic I was refering to. I was simply stating that intolerance gets you no where. And I did say "You can choose to not believe in God but calling down someone who does is just moronic. Same goes for people who call down others that do not believe." I know many murders have been caused by religion but you know what many murders were cuz that had nothing to do with religion. Your using religion as a simple way to blame all the bad in the world. Don't be so quick to snap at someone. I never said anything that should have offended you. And I pointed out I don't listen to who trys to offend me so I don't get offended.

Why do people think I get offended when I write here? I just asked for you not to say crap like that. I'm still happy

But to re-iterate, yeah, I said murder, but I really meant war and misery. And of course it's not ALL atrocities that are caused in some way or another by religion, but the great majority are. Still, there is no question whatsoever that whenever people stop placing blind faith in religion, the world will be a better place. No doubt about it.