I agree, perhaps buck up isn't quite as 'nice sounding' as some of the other things you guys said... but all in all I meant the same. As the one who claims my post is the most ignorant he's ever seen... well, I'm don't quite feel like stooping to your level, so... I'll let have fun with that one ... Perhaps my negative offset for this thread was influenced by the famous "truestoner" who snowballed a wopping 18 pages yesterday on what was nothing more then a cry for help, and for that, I apologize. But by no means am I, as you said, "ignorant." I just want there to be less pain in the world. It tends to eat at you when you've witnissed as many suicides as I have... Just please, please do NOT call me ignorant.