The 4th dimension

[CocaCola]

That is what I was gonna say, but I didn't want to challange anyone's crazy theories, cause no one did mine. >.>

How is order a dimension? I don't understand these 6th and 7th and 8th dimensions.

People are taking it too far!1

[stangle12]

sound is nothing more then compressions of air...not really a demension. you can't have sound without air.

[lateralus]

Hm. The fourth dimension: the quality of being tangible. Space/matter. Three dimensional cubes are on paper, and you can't put your hand in it. You can't shake it or touch it.

[stangle12]

sorry i dont have time to organize my thoughts. i got enough on my plate studying for my physics final.

[CocaCola]

sound is nothing more then compressions of air...not really a demension. you can't have sound without air.

Yes. If sound is it's own dimension then why isn't light? These are all physical things existing in 3D space.

I think Stoner Wolf is just all crazy and high!

[lateralus]

Yes. If sound is it's own dimension then why isn't light? These are all physical things existing in 3D space.

I think Stoner Wolf is just all crazy and high!

Yeah, sound and light couldn't have their own dimension; they're affected by the other dimensions.

1. dot
2. square
3. cube
4. space, tangible
5. energy (which generates movement, which enables sound/light)

[flamingskullballs]

dot cannot be a dimension, exept in video games maybe...

the dot would have to be the smallest thing possible, which is impossible...you can always go smaller...even the "dot" would have length and width at least...its not physically possible to have something so small that its the first dimension, or a "dot"

[CocaCola]

4, like I said... if you transend 4, you can experience anything and everything. Tangiblity is only restricted to imagaination, right? Errr...

And also, energy... excellent. I didn't take that into consideration... this is what makes up everything as a whole. Everything connected... all one... string theory.

dot cannot be a dimension, exept in video games maybe...

the dot would have to be the smallest thing possible, which is impossible...you can always go smaller...even the "dot" would have length and width at least...its not physically possible to have something so small that its the first dimension, or a "dot"

True. But then where does everything begin? If you keep going in a straight line, you'll just end up where you where, right? So maybe that is what it is? time, in essence, is the zero dimension?

[lateralus]

So maybe that is what it is? time, in essence, is the zero dimension?

I like that. Well, are the dimensions an effort to classify everything in existence? Time is merely an attribute of all things.. it could not possibly be any higher up in the dimensions than.. well.. anything. Can it be construed as a building block of existence? As soon as a dot comes into existence, it begins to age, so that obviously rules out time as the fourth dimension.

Without time, everything would exist in one moment. If everything did exist in only one moment, we wouldn't be able to think, to react, because those both require some time (and energy) to occur. Energy couldn't exist. Movement would be nonexistent (it takes two moments for an object to move from point A to point B). And since everything would only last for one moment, if there were not two moments (time), the dot would only exist for one. Everything would be gone by nanosecond two.

So there is no doubt that time exists, but can it be construed as the zero dimension? Time is not necessary for the dot to exist, but it is for the dot to last.

[lateralus]

I was thinking that time should be the first dimension, but no, because it isn't necessary to build the dot, but only to sustain it.

Edit: No, then again.. a dot can be sustained, if everything existed in one moment. But, as I've said before, that is impossible. This is confusing as hell.

string theory.

A very good friend of mine mentioned the string theory while we were discussing this very subject a few weeks ago. I haven't read anything about it though.

Oh well, I love philosophy, but it saddens me that it's a dead end subject. Will we ever find truth? Doubtful. Maybe posterity, millions of years from now, will receive some sort of divine enlightenment from our extraterrestrial neighbors.