Quote Originally Posted by MudFu
Its like...ok...this is a curde way of relating it but here goes. 1+1 is 2, but you can also say 1+1 is 11. I can accept the idea that it has to outcomes but I will always choose one outcome, the 2. Its the same as the possiblity of God or not. I can see both but I will always choose one. This may not make sence but its the best I can do.
No, sorry, that doesn't make any sense. 1 + 1 can never equal 11. Omnipotence and omniscience can never exist in the same being. No matter how you look at it, 2 + 2 = 4, and there is no God.
I choose to believe that God wants us to advance ourselves. God do not want us to relie on the powers that God holds. God wants us to achive. This is my belief. Others will not agree but I'm not others.
So where's the evidence that God exists? That is to say, what is it about our world that you experienced that caused you to believe in God? In your world, he just doesn't interact with the physical universe in any way. That certainly seems to best fit the evidence, at least. But then, how can you state that God exists, if there isn't anything in our physical universe which suggests that he does? How did the knowledge of God get from his protective barrier beyond the event horizon of our universe to your brain? Unless you're just making shit up, that is.
We still and may forever not understand God (keeping in mine that their could be). It will be something that can never be fully explained. Whats the point in anything? Many things, we as humans do, have no real point, but we still do them. The reason no one can tell you what God is, is that no one knows.
Wait...you're saying that nobody knows what God is. So, how can you know it exists? What is it that you are claiming exists? I can't just say I believe in snooglefrumps but nobody knows what snooglefrumps are. That's a meaningless statement. So either tell me something about what God is, or just admit that you're really an atheist underneath it all.
You mean destiny. I do not believe we have a choosen path that we have to walk down. I also do not believe God can see what will be.
So how can God be all-powerful, if he doesn't have the power to see into the future? Hell, even humans can form vague ideas about what's going to happen in the future.
You can choose your future, you do have free will, but once again this is how I see it. Unknown for sure but it is still my ideas.
And where did you get that idea? Oh that's right, you pulled it right out of your ass. Please, if you care about the truth in the slightest, try to back your beliefs up with arguments or revise them to better fit the evidence. Just stating something does not make it so.
I can not prove it and you can not dismiss it.
What is there to dismiss? You tell me there's a God, but you don't know what God is, and you're open to the possibility that this thing that you can't even identify might not even be there. Of course it's impossible to dismiss such a vague statement.

You tell me we have something called "free will", but you refuse to define that too. If we look into the matter hard enough, we find that free will is just as meaningless a concept. From what we can observe, people's behavior is dependent upon various factors: what they've learned from previous experiences, the structure of their brains, their emotional state, their state of consciousness, and so forth, whose physical reality can be shown. So what is "free will"? People say that free will is when something makes decisions for us independent of these phenomena, "on its own" somehow. But what, then, does it base its decisions on, if not for those phenomena? Does it choose decisions at random? Nobody seems to be claiming that. The answer is that free will does not exist; our behavior is based on a range of phenomena in the brain, ultimately derived from our genes, our experiences, and our current state of mind.
Someday, maybe, we will have the answers, but as for now we live and we hope for more.
It is certain that we will know more in the future. But knowledge comes from science, not from faith. Knowledge comes from observation about the world, and forming theories that fit those observations. That is the only way to obtain knowledge. Knowledge cannot be found by throwing logic out the window and making shit up.
I am hoping for many things, love, accpence, peace, happiness for friends and family and everyone and I hope my children will live a good life.
I hope for the same things, and I know that peace on Earth can only be achieved once faith is defeated and replaced with rational, critical thought. We have to keep an open mind, but not so open that our brains fall out. Be receptive to new ideas, but don't believe in them unless they can show some evidence.