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12-10-2005, 10:18 PM #11
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Religion, war and violence
No, those people do have an effect on your life, or you would not even know of their existence. When I say we shouldn't argue about things which have no impact on our lives, I mean things which really have no impact whatsoever on anybody's life. Like debating the size of a planet nobody can observe in a galaxy too far away to see as anything more than a smear. Nobody would debate the size of a planet that they can't even see, because it's pointless. Similarly, it's pointless to argue whether we reincarnate after death or go to eternal bliss, because there's no evidence that either one is the case. In fact, there's no reason to suggest that consciousness can outlive the brain any more than heartbeat can outlive the heart.
Originally Posted by MudFu
Even when my views are that religion is a waste of time and needs to be eliminated? I'm always going to offend someone taking that stance, and I don't fucking care. Religion needs to be dealt with, just like all other forms of oppression like racism, sexism, fascism, etc. I am not considerate of the beliefs of racists, sexists or fascists, so why should I tolerate the beliefs of somebody telling me to bow down to the rules of a totalitarian dictator of the universe (God) who they can't even prove exists?As far as me leaving this forum, no. I know what this froum is for, but you do not only talk about your views you put down others. You have insulted my ideas because they do not fit your way of thinking. You can share your views and still be considerate to others and their views.
So your open mind acknowledges that it just might be the case that all this faith stuff is bullshit? I highly doubt that.When you choose to bash others views thats when you become the asshole. You have started to bash my views and others views. Its funny how you said "when one person pretends that he's right and everybody else is wrong" when you are doing the same. You have no proof we are right and we have no proof you are wrong. I still do not say someone is wrong, I will say if I disagree with them and point out my idea but I will keep and opened mind.
Quite the contrary. Look at all those people whose faith is so strong they go to faith healers instead of real doctors practicing science. That's really harmful. Look at the people whose faith is so strong they feel they have to crash airplanes into buildings to please their God. That's harmful. Religion isn't going to stop killing until we kill it.I have openly said I do not have weither I am wrong but I still have Faith. It never hurts to have faith.
So? It's up to you to prove to me that God exists. If there's no evidence for it, I'm going to assume it doesn't exist, like the invisible unicorn.Oh and just because it "should" be doing something, doesn't mean it will.
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