Religion, war and violence

[F L E S H]

I think this post would have been better if you posted it after someone showed sighs of anger, like when I said that Oneironaut was crossing the line of becoming an asshole. Anyways, nice way of putting something so blunt. You guys have no understanding of what we (as in people who have faith) believe. Not all people believe in God but they still have faith in certian things. Anyways I stand by what I said before. This is a spiritual forum. You guys are not spiritual. You are protesting our spirituality. You don't really have much of a place in this forum.

I didn't write that sooner because I don't spend all day at my PC...
Well, it's a Spirituality forum, and that implies that we can debate issues. What would be the point of a forum if everyone says "god is good" "yup, he's a cool dude" "Hooray for Jesus!"?

If it bothers you people have different opinions than yours, don't go on the internet...

F L E S H Reviewed by F L E S H on 12-11-2005. Religion, war and violence Religious people like to claim that their religion is the one that is going to bring peace to the world, or that their religion in one of many peace-bringing religions out there. They say that followers of their religion, believers in their god(s), donators to their church will be infused with a sense of peace and tranquility and will not want to do harm unto men. Yet in the real world, the history of religious dogma has been the story of constant warfare and strife. Even now we see horrible Rating: 5

[F L E S H]

I grew up on Gay Lane.

That's a pretty good thought, a big daddy upstairs who'll give you some goodies after you die.

We may never need to find God and that may be His goal. People say they "find" God, but if they actually found Him, they would cease to exist.

And not come back.

But what if there's nothing to find?

[MudFu]

Well, it's a Spirituality forum, and that implies that we can debate issues. What would be the point of a forum if everyone says "god is good" "yup, he's a cool dude" "Hooray for Jesus!"?

Man you are turly offended by everything it seems. And you get snappy over little things. If you believe you have to believe in god to be Spiritual then your wrong. Buddha's beliefs has nothing really to do with God, just enlightnment. Not everyone here who has faith believes in god. Not everyone who believes in God believes in jesus. You are highly untolerable, and you are to snappy to talk to. You can not even take anything said in this without being insulting. You are now one of the people whos post I will skip for now on. Good day. And feel free to make snotty remarks now.

[Mellow Man]

To the people of faith who are getting all riled up:

That's the freaking point! We want you to get mad, we want to provoke you to thought, we ultimately want you shed your childlike fantasy of a big daddy upstairs who'll give you some goodies after you die, but only if you've been a good boy during your life!

Sounds a bit like Santa Claus to me, and when did you stop believing in him, when you were 10-11-12? I wonder why don't people stop believe in Christianity at that same age? well, probably because of the big-ass churches that are around the world filled with sexually-repressed old men in robes who think they're always right.

Polymirize, there's a difference between empiricism and science. It's not a question of priests vs. scientists. There are other people too. The hardcore scientific view is just as harmful as religious ascetism. That being said, the answer does not lie "somewhere in the middle." But I'm not gonna go into that here, Nietzsche wrote a whole book on the subject called The Gay Science (Gay as in happy....).

Well you never brought me to anger!,infact you brought me to be more humble in a sense!,but while you tryed to anger us as you said! you made yourself look foolish and probably won't have anyone take you seriouse,you talked as if you knew the scriptures but yet doubted that moses said a eye for a eye infact you acted like there was no such thing mentioned,but now you want us to listen to your great words of wisdom? ..........Concerning such topics perhaps you should either retire from talking about such things or actually go do some reading then come back a little more prepared!....seriously dude to come into a debate and say moses never said those things was self absorbed,your so ignorant your prepared to argue without knowing ?????...interesting consept lol.

if this post seems ignorant that was not my goal but perhaps it was the goal to reveil to others that when it comes to this subject you are ignorant.....peace.

[F L E S H]

Well you never brought me to anger!,infact you brought me to be more humble in a sense!,but while you tryed to anger us as you said! you made yourself look foolish and probably won't have anyone take you seriouse,you talked as if you knew the scriptures but yet doubted that moses said a eye for a eye infact you acted like there was no such thing mentioned,but now you want us to listen to your great words of wisdom? ..........Concerning such topics perhaps you should either retire from talking about such things or actually go do some reading then come back a little more prepared!....seriously dude to come into a debate and say moses never said those things was self absorbed,your so ignorant your prepared to argue without knowing ?????...interesting consept lol.

if this post seems ignorant that was not my goal but perhaps it was the goal to reveil to others that when it comes to this subject you are ignorant.....peace.

You are officially an idiot. I made one little mistake, and if that's the only thing you have against me, that's pretty sad.

My goal is not to make people angry, my goal is to provoke thought. Man, my ignorance meter is off the charts.

[F L E S H]

Man you are turly offended by everything it seems. And you get snappy over little things. If you believe you have to believe in god to be Spiritual then your wrong. Buddha's beliefs has nothing really to do with God, just enlightnment. Not everyone here who has faith believes in god. Not everyone who believes in God believes in jesus. You are highly untolerable, and you are to snappy to talk to. You can not even take anything said in this without being insulting. You are now one of the people whos post I will skip for now on. Good day. And feel free to make snotty remarks now.

You and Mellow Man need to take classes in reading comprehension.

I'm not angry at all, I've got nothing to be angry about. The only one being snotty here is you.

It seems you guys can't make a good point without resorting to personal attacks... That speaks volumes....

[beachguy in thongs]

It seems you guys can't make a good point without resorting to personal attacks... That speaks volumes....

That's what I mean.

You did get the wrong idea when I said that. To tell you the truth, I don't know where that idea came from, probably because there's been a lot of college threads.

[beachguy in thongs]

Flesh, how did we get here?

What happened 13.7 billion (to the 12th power) years ago?

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

the creation of earth began around that time, starting with the blueprints, which took several years to fine tune.

[Mellow Man]

You are officially an idiot. I made one little mistake, and if that's the only thing you have against me, that's pretty sad.

My goal is not to make people angry, my goal is to provoke thought. Man, my ignorance meter is off the charts.

Its a big mistake when infact your debating the bible or what not!......