I would like to point out that I believe much of what is sold as "nirvana" is most likely not from a breeder but out of someone's homegrown, I say this because any breeder worth a damm is going to have some kind of standardization. I think its quiet possible that they are the reject seeds of other grower's, also nirvana does not really sell there seeds so cheap go to nirvana.com and see for yourself, when you get these seed banks selling them for less than half that cost you know there is something wrong. Quiet possibly there is some kind of jealousy or rivalry going on to destroy nirvana seeds so the seedbanks sell garbage seeds as nirvana. In the usa though you have no choice but to go through a seed bank as nirvana will not sell to the usa. (thats what they say at least)