What do you think?

[MudFu]

Yes true but everyone knows why a tree goes up. It all started with Christmas. Maybe we should put a Manora up in another large city.

[beachguy in thongs]

I nominate Des Moines.

[halo]

I think that saying merry christmas is perfectly fine. The only thing that bugs me is at some places they will say happy hannukah and happy kwannza but not merry christmas. This is why people are saying they are discriminating against christians. And plus, 85 percent of the usa says they are christian. I think happy holidays is fine. I dont see whats wrong with merry christmas though.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

i do have to admit, christians have put u pa lot of BS in the past, but those were not truly christians but individuals. people need to stop blaming a type of people for the stupidity of a person.

[beachguy in thongs]

Let's change it to 'Have a Stoned Christmas' and start putting that on Christmas cards.

What about X-Mas? Who came up with X-Mas?

[MudFu]

X came from the Greek word for christmas. I forget what it is but it starts with X. Now a days people think its disrepect but it really do mean Christmas...I'll see if I can find the word for you.

[MudFu]

Found it...pretty fast too

Well, that letter may look like an "X" and walk like an "X" and quack like an "X," but it isn't an "X." That's the Greek letter "chi" which is pronounced about like "ch" was in Old English ... which is to say, about how it's pronounced in German today, or in a few imported words, like "Christ" or "Christmas," for example.

"X" (as in chi) was used as an abbreviation for Christ from early times, perhaps initially as a camouflage for the religion. It was the first letter of the word Christos (meaning "the anointed one," e.g., the Messiah) and fortuitously was cross-shaped, so there seemed to be some symbolism or double meaning. It's been used as a scholarly and not-so-scholarly abbreviation since.

http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mxmas.html

[weirdo79]

Cough Cough ,Practically every xmas tradition was long ago pagan, before any christian's had shown up(anywhere)....the only thing they contributed was the creche....but of course thats(dec25th) not even the bday of Jesus either.....So its perfect Irony they celebrate it on Xmas....Silly christian's calling it their tradition......Just for adding a creche.....Wonder what other holiday's they co opted that dont actually correspond to their own given dates in the bible???(this is rhetorical I'm actually urging you to look it up yourselves ).

It's kind of like that song "every generation blames the one before" but instead with these lyrics "every religion steals the traditions of the one before" Not all traditions of course but christianity sure has stolen more than most it seems.

Just had to add that to the fire .

Happy Holidays is used for the same reason Jon Stewart explained last night, and he said it oh so much better than I ever could .

I also love how Christian's pull statistics out of their ass to support their arguements (ones that only seem to exist on christian websites in fact.....not at StatsCan or any other for instance.....).

Christmas is basically a big finger flipped off to the Jews saying "your wrong we're right , even if we dont know the date of our supposed saviour's birth....." (as no actual biblical passage says it was xmas.......)

But I do enjoy getting presents and isnt that really the meaning of xmas........

And, I dont know ssw if all of those people believe the same idiocy the others do , then yes I think its fair to judge that they're ALL stupid .

And , truly considering all things Happy Holidays or Merry Christmas is fine , but if you say it the way Bill O Reilly did the other day, well no thats like saying something I do not wish to repeat myself......(mainly to do with the aformentioned above in a meaner sense.....). Basically saying "we dont need your kind round here boiy". It's fairly clearly implied in certain instances....

[beachguy in thongs]

Xmas (or X-mas) is an abbreviation for Christmas. It is derived from the word ΧΡΙΣΤΟΣ, transliterated as Christos, which is Greek for Christ. Greek is the language in which the whole New Testament was written.

Originally, Xmas was an abbreviation where the X represents the Greek letter (see chi . It is pronounced with a hard ch), which is the first letter of Christ's name in Greek. However, because of the modern interpretations of the letter X, many people are unaware of this and assume that this abbreviation is meant to drop Christ from Christmas as a secularization or political correctness vehicle. The occasionally seen belief that the X represents the cross. Christ was crucified on has no basis in fact; St Andrew's Cross is X-shaped, but Christ's cross was probably shaped like a T or a â?*. Indeed, X-as-chi was associated with Christ long before X-as-cross could be. The use of X as an abbreviation for cross in modern parlance may have reinforced this assumption.

In ancient Christian art X and XP (Chi Ro--the first two letters in Greek of Christos) abbreviate Christ's name. In many manuscripts of the New Testament and icons, X abbreviates Christos (Xristos), as does XC (the first and last letters using the lunate sigma along with IC for Jesus in Greek. The Oxford English Dictionary documents the use of this abbreviation back to 1551, fifty years before the first English colonists came to America and sixty years earlier than the completion of the King James Version of the Bible. At the same time, Xian and Xianity were in frequent use as abbreviations of Christian and Christianity..

The abbreviation is widely but not universally accepted; some view it as demeaning to Christ, whilst others find it helpful to use in text messages and emails to save space. Similarly, Xianity is sometimes used as the abbreviation for Christianity (although this usage is much less common than "Xmas").

In the animated television show Futurama, which is set in the 31st century, Xmas is the official name for the day formerly known as Christmas.

[weirdo79]

Woot Santa "slays" tonight! (love futurama)